On 10247 March 1977, ivan-debian-newmaint@420.am wrote:
> I am attempting to have a constructive discussion [1].
Doesnt sound so, sorry.
> The *process* is still bottlenecked on a single person. I'm frankly
> dumbfounded that you, as an additional DAM who was appointed to relieve
> that bottleneck, are being hostile towards those of us asking you to
> actually do so.
You havent seen me hostile, that here is just normal text. :)
Im appointed as DAM, not as keyring-maint or debian-sysadmin.
Now go back in time, around December 2004.
There is this small little AM who suddenly gets mentally ill and starts
to bug the existing DAM with sentences similar to "Sorry, but you are
probably busy/overloaded/whatever, let me help you". Doing that for some
days, getting responses, talking, etc. From a random AM who just
happened to have some NMs processed in the past.
Come back to now and think about what "the missing stuff" means: Having all,
keyring-maint, debian-sysadmin and DAM you can say "I own the project"
as in "I can do every bullshit I want (except another dsa is
incidentally watching and stops you)". Add accounts, add yourself to
any group you want, add keys to the keyring which is the central thing
for many places in debian, etc. pp. Imagine whatever you want, you
probably know what root-like stuff can do.
What would you, as James, do then? Happily hand out all that?
If you answer yes, please shoot yourself now. :)
And formally - that it was all at one person is historic, not the whole
definition of it.
I get the accounts I want to have created[1], and I could get accounts
deleted/modified if I would want that (hint: MIA run is coming).
>> >> Maybe to take away some load from James? Like - reading the whole
>> >> stuff, looking what he did/does and actually deciding "Yes, I think he
>> >> would give a good DD"? And take the responsibility if you make crap with it.
>> > You weren't appointed to "Back Desk" or "DAM helper" - you were
>> > appointed to DAM. Please fulfull the responsibilities of that role or
>> > step down. If you just want to approve applications, then ask to be
>> > re-appointed to "Back Desk" and let's have someone else appointed as an
>> > additional DAM.
>> Like you?
> That was *not* my implication. I'm sure Debian would prefer someone
> else in that role. I already put my time where my mouth is and
> volunteered to automate the account creation process, if the reason
> you're not creating accounts is simply that it isn't scripted enough.
Actually there are a lot of scripts around our user-related stuff.
[1] Of course James has the right to disagree with me, beeing DAM and
stuff. But then we can dicuss it and one of us fixes his opinion...
--
bye Joerg
<vorlon> since anyone who can get along with elmo must *surely* be part of
the cabal.
<Overfiend> vorlon: Not true. I've gotten along with elmo from time to time.
We're just both ashamed of it.
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