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Re: the developer in me



On Sun, Nov 24, 2002 at 10:51:46AM +0100, Russell Coker wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Nov 2002 11:40, Sven Luther wrote:
> > Mmm, can i ask you a ppp related question ?
> >
> > I have packaged unicorn, a kernel driver for the Bewan ADSL PCI st
> > modem, and it needs pppoatm support in pppd. Currently, the ppp package
> > in debian doesn't support this, and there is no trace of any pppoatm
> > stuff in the ppp cvs tree (altough there is pppoe), so i (and other
> > users) have to resort to using the alienised pppoatm ienabled 2.4.0 pppd
> > found on the sourceforge pppoatm site, which is _not_ a nice solution.
> 
> Hmm.  Maybe we should have a combined kernel patch package that does all 
> pppoatm drivers.  I've currently got a kernel patch for speedtouch USB-ADSL 
> hardware...

No, i don't think this would be a good solution. pppoatm support is in
the stock 2.4 and 2.5 kernels, so no patch is needed, and if you go to
drivers, the speedtouch driver is currently included in the 2.5.x
kernels, while i don't think this would ever happen for the unicorn
driver, since it depend on non-free stuff. Also, i guess the release
cycle of these drivers is not in sync, so a common driver will not be a
good idea. Also, i don't think it gains the user much, since he will at
most have only one ADSL modem. You could do a common meta package or
whatever it is called which depend on all the drivers though.

> I am also using a strange hacked pppd because I have not got around to putting 
> it in the package.

Yes, not nice isn't it ?

> > (Notice that there is an open bug about pppoatm support in the ppp
> > debian package, but i think it is mostly ignored).
> 
> Sorry, I've been busy.

Mmm, what is the exact maintenerial status of ppp right now ?

More seriously, do you think that the 2.4.1.uus package could get the
pppoatm patches from Matthew applied to it without to much effort ?
Given that you already backported some of the plugin interface stuff ?

I can do testing and packaging, but i really don't have time to adapt
the patch myself, also i know nothing about how ppp works internally,
and i think my time is better spent on things i know something about
(doing X driver developpment right now).

Friendly,

Sven Luther



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