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Re: IETF changing their IPR policy, not DFSG compliant

Simon Josefsson wrote:
> Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> writes:
>> Hi Simon, thanks for forwarding this.
>> Simon Josefsson wrote:
>>> Basically, this post is a For-Your-Information note, and while it
>>> doesn't bring up something for discussion on this list, I do think a
>>> license change in the IETF may be interesting to some debian-legal
>>> participants.
>> My sense from the IPR-WG and IETF-discuss conversations is that folks in
>> the IETF don't have a strong interest in making sure that RFCs are DFSG
>> compliant.
> I agree.
>> However, there is a small "out clause", in that contributors may
>> separately license the RFCs they author (since they retain the
>> original rights). Perhaps it makes sense to use that in a productive
>> and creative manner. I would propose:
>> (1) We formulate the recommended text of an information notice that
>> authors can place in their published RFCs.
>> (2) We launch a special repository for "non-RFC RFCs", where RFC authors
>> can upload their separately-licensed specs (not labelled as RFCs) under
>> a DFSG-friendly license.
> Good ideas.  I attempt to cover (1) in
> <http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-josefsson-free-standards-howto-01>.
> For (2), one approach would be to upload xml source for the documents,
> and modify xml2rfc slightly to avoid inserting any IETF related texts,
> and have it automatically render the document in various formats.  This
> would only cover xml though, but converting documents to XML even from
> *.txt is easy.  (And I noticed the announcement for a rfc2xml tool on
> the ietf tools list recently, which could help.)  What do you think?

Yes, that's what I was thinking. And we can call them the "ONR Series"
(Openly Not RFCs) or whatever.

> It would be natural for the contents of (2) to be packaged by Debian, if
> the documents are useful for documentation inside Debian.  (I think at
> least RFC 5021 is a candidate for this, that protocol is implement by
> Shishi which is also packaged in Debian.)

Yes this document series could be packaged by Debian for sure as long as
we get the licensing right. ;-)


Peter Saint-Andre

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