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Re: Adobe open source license -- is this licence free?

Michael Poole <mdpoole@troilus.org> writes:
> Jeremy Hankins writes:

>> Yes, but (as you point out in your pine example) that can happen
>> regardless of license.  There are some things we simply can't protect
>> against.
> Indeed, but we can refuse to make it easier for a malicious actor or
> more costly for their victims (where those victims become such by
> using Debian).

We could, but does the DFSG require it?  There are other, non-malicious
reasons for choice-of-venue, as others have pointed out.

>> The argument against choice-of-venue that I've heard is that it might be
>> a choice that has strange or restrictive law that heavily favors the
>> copyright holder.  As far as I know (and I haven't read the whole
>> thread) no one's making that argument about California.  And to a
>> certain extent, a nations laws always are able to remove freedoms that
>> free software would like to permit, and there's not a lot we can do
>> about it.  Let's not tilt at windmills here.
> That would be the argument against choice-of-law clauses.  The
> argument against choice-of-venue is that any licensor can drag a user
> into court in the licensor's preferred venue rather than a venue that
> the user would otherwise be subject to.

Ah.  I assumed (perhaps erroneously) that the choice of venue impacted
the choice of law.  I take it that the two issues are unrelated?

Jeremy Hankins <nowan@nowan.org>
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