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Re: Eclipse 3.0 Running ILLEGALY on Kaffe

On Thu, 2005-13-01 at 22:51 +0100, Måns Rullgård wrote:
> >> > Do you understand that a program being interpreted is effectively
> >> > linked to these facilities it uses thru these bindings?
> >> 
> >> Yes.  Which bindings does Eclipse use?
> >
> > I told you.  Plenty.  And if we're making Eclipse Build-depend on
> > a GPLed version of these, then we're explicitely forcing these bindings
> > to be GPLed.
> Guess what, Eclipse does not have a Build-depends on any GPLd JVM.  It
> has a Build-depends on j2sdk1.3 | j2sdk1.4, which are virtual
> packages.  Guess what else, Kaffe doesn't provide either of these.
> Surprised?  I'm amused.

Which Eclipse packages?  The old ones we have in SID now?  Irrelevant.
There would have been nothing whatsoever to discuss in such case.

The *new* Eclipse packages that are being prepared now and which we've
been discussing (I already said it in another email, but you must
have crossed yours) have it this way:

Build-depends: kaffe
Depends: kaffe | java2-runtime

[ From http://kyoto.larvalstage.net/ubuntu/warty/ ]

So a user who does either 'apt-get source eclipse' or 'apt-get install
eclipse' will link (either at compilation time or at runtime) to Kaffe's
Java library, and to Kaffe JVM bindings which are all GPL.

I hope this clarifies _at least_ this issue.


Grzegorz B. Prokopski           <gadek@sablevm.org>
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