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Re: Eclipse 3.0 Running ILLEGALY on Kaffe



"Grzegorz B. Prokopski" <gadek@debian.org> writes:

> On Thu, 2005-13-01 at 19:55 +0100, Måns Rullgård wrote:
>> "Grzegorz B. Prokopski" <gadek@debian.org> writes:
>> > If you at least went on and read next paragraph of the FAQ from which
>> > you took the above.
>> >
>> > http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#IfInterpreterIsGPL
>> >
>> > "However, when the interpreter is extended to provide "bindings" to
>> > other facilities (often, but not necessarily, libraries), the
>> > interpreted program is effectively linked to the facilities it uses
>> > through these bindings. So if these facilities are released under the
>> > GPL, the interpreted program that uses them must be released in a
>> > GPL-compatible way. The JNI or Java Native Interface is an example of
>> > such a binding mechanism; libraries that are accessed in this way are
>> > linked dynamically with the Java programs that call them. These
>> > libraries are also linked with the interpreter. If the interpreter is
>> > linked statically with these libraries, or if it is designed to link
>> > dynamically with these specific libraries, then it too needs to be
>> > released in a GPL-compatible way."
>> 
>> I fail to see the relevance of this paragraph to the discussion at
>> hand.  The alleged incompatibility was between the interpreter (JVM)
>> and the program being interpreted.  Does Eclipse make explicit use of
>> libraries licensed under the GPL?
>
> It surely does explicitely call java.lang.Object.wait() quite often

java.lang.Object is part of the standard Java API published by Sun
(http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/api/java/lang/Object.html).

> (as any multithreaded java program), which in turn calls the JVM,

Quite so.

> which is purely GPLed.

Incorrect.  There exists a GPL JVM for sure, but there also exist
other JVM implementations (e.g. Sun's) equally capable of running
Eclipse.

-- 
Måns Rullgård
mru@inprovide.com



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