On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 09:26:26AM -0500, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: > Take your problems with Octave, GNU Emacs, XEmacs, GNU R, Open Office, > Firefox, half of xscreensaver, and Evolution to their respective developers. No, your metaphor is broken. Those are "new and exciting lighters." A lighter will have a button in a simlar place to a bic, it will have a fuel chamber in a similar place to a bic.