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Re: A possible GFDL compromise

On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 12:23:40AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 04:30:11PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> > Please catch up on the archives of this list for the past year or so.
> Which is unfortunately not, to me,  a very helpful suggestion, as I do not
> have the days or weeks to spare to do that.  Perhaps you could summarize the
> main points?

It would take far less than a day.  If you have the time to keep up with
this mailing list, you can spend a few hours to read portions of the web
archives of this mailing list.

Some relevant threads include:


  # xfig-doc has license problems in examples


  # Date licenses [he meant "data", and this features an appearance by
  # The old DFSG-lemma again... [features me attempting to hammer out a
    compromise with RMS]


  # GFDL is a DFSG-compliant license [by Bruce Perens, espousing a
    position he no longer holds]
  # existing FDL documentation won't hurt
  # PROPOSED: interpretive guidelines regarding DFSG 3, modifiability,
    and invariant text [the first of a two attempts by me to -- gasp --
    let the FSF's GNU FDLed manuals stay in main]
  # FWD: Bug#121916: analog should be in non-free
  # REVISED PROPOSAL regarding DFSG 3 and 4, licenses, and modifiable
    text [my second attempt; it's interesting to note who was fighting
    my proposal tooth-and-nail back then and yet today insists that we
    keep GNU FDLed manuals in main :)] [1]
  # How about a new section "[partially free]"?
  # Re: LDP in main?
  # LDP licences
  # Final Draft: Interpretive Guideline regarding DFSG clause 3 (the
    actual "proposed" part of this describes how we actually operate as
    far as I can tell, except for GNU FDLed manuals from the FSF, but
    the impact statement is no longer understood to be correct)
  # An attempt to narrow the issues
  # A concrete proposal
  # GDB manual
  # [summary] Interpretive Guideline regarding DFSG clause 3


  # GDB manuals
  # license requirements for a book to be in free section


  # FSF seeks comments on draft 1.2 of the FDL
  # Comments on GNU FDL 1.2 Draft
  # Problems in GNU FDL 1.2 Draft


  # Re: distributable but non-free documents
  # I want doc-rfc in Woody! (license issues)
  # Preprints/Reprints of Academic Papers in Packages

There's six months' worth to get you started.  It's only the beginning,
but for whatever reason[2] we seem to be retreading the basics lately.

Note that if you wish to summarize the above threads (plus perhaps some
others that catch your fancy), your efforts would likely be valued and

[1] I freely admit that my proposal was always vendor-neutral; that is,
    GNU FDLed works from the FSF would not be held to a different
    standard than GNU FDLed works from anyone else, which is the present
    status quo.

[2] Well, I okay, I can think of three reasons: Sergey Spiridonov, Fedor
    Zuev, and John Goerzen.

G. Branden Robinson                |
Debian GNU/Linux                   |         Ab abusu ad usum non valet
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