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Re: PHPNuke license

On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 20:39, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> David Turner <novalis@gnu.org> writes:
> > OTOH, the Affero bit is staying AFAIK, and I hope that Debian can accept
> > that.  We had a discussion on proper interpretation of #3 brewing, and I
> > would be happy for it to brew some more (although I'll have to take off
> > my FSF hat, of course).
> By "is staying", do you mean that the decision is made and nobody can
> say anything about it?

*no fsf hat, of course*

If Debian decided that it couldn't accept it, and I had tried as hard as
I could to change its collective mind (assuming my noncollective mind
hadn't been changed in the process), I would push for its removal.  But
I bet Debian can accept it.

> The reason I dislike the "Affero bit" is that it is a further
> restriction on freedom.  I stand for freedom.  I like freedom.  I
> learned about freedom from RMS, but he has apparently decided that
> freedom is no longer all it's cracked up to be.  Is there any value in
> complaining about the "Affero bit", or is the FSF just going to insist
> on this?

I want to discuss it, but not in this thread.  Start a new one.  

> As with the FDL, this is very like an anti-flag burning rule.  I
> believe in the values that the American flag supposedly stands for
> (freedom, principally), and accordingly I would not engage in flag
> burning.  Those who want to ban flag-burning want to take away freedom
> in the name of preserving a symbol of freedom.

Please don't turn everything into an FDL issue.  The AGPL can be
evaluated independently of the invariant section nonsense.

-Dave Turner                     Stalk Me: 617 441 0668

"On matters of style, swim with the current, on matters 
of principle, stand like a rock." -Thomas Jefferson

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