On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 05:15:58PM -0500, David Turner wrote: > *speaking as an FSF employee, but not stating an official position of > the foundation* > > I just got out of a meeting on how to clean up (2)(c). No guarantees, > but I'm working for it. Our initial thought is to move from normal > startup to something like -v. This is perfectly fine with me, but *please* don't let the new (2)(c) go into a whole lot of detail about how *exactly* the content must be presented. That is, I have a pipe dream about standardizing the --version outputs of commands such that you can always suck out the upstream version with: foo --version | head -1 | awk '{print $2}' In other words, it's fine to mandate that the material of interest be presented in some human-comprehensible format[1] (provided they speak the language :) ), but please don't specify a format in the license. > This would be non-cluttering, but would retain the various good > effects of (2)(c), which include stroking authors' egos, letting users > know about Free Software, and keeping copyright strings in the program > binaries (which is how most of our license violations are found). I am entirely in sympathy with these goals. They all promote a vibrant commons of software: 1) the individual can be made aware of the existence and nature of the commons 2) the individual is provided with an incentive to participate 3) abusers/appropriators of the commons can be identified > OTOH, the Affero bit is staying AFAIK, and I hope that Debian can accept > that. We had a discussion on proper interpretation of #3 brewing, and I > would be happy for it to brew some more (although I'll have to take off > my FSF hat, of course). Can you explicate to the list what the "Affero bit" is? [1] There is an XML elephant in the room, but I'll ignore it if you will. -- G. Branden Robinson | I suspect Linus wrote that in a Debian GNU/Linux | complicated way only to be able to branden@debian.org | have that comment in there. http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | -- Lars Wirzenius
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