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Re: Corel's apt frontend

On Sun, Oct 31, 1999 at 09:55:33PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote:
> > > Where would you like the discussion to head?
> On Sun, Oct 31, 1999 at 05:30:44PM -0800, Joseph Carter wrote:
> > Towards a fix for the problem that doesn't make the GPL non-free.
> How does my interpretation of copyright law make the GPL non-free?

Kernel is GPL.  Everything is a derivative of the kernel under your
interpretation.  You can argue that Linus has allowed people to abuse the
GPL of the kernel so it's okay, however I think this would cause the GPL
to contaminate any distribution which contains any GPL software.  If that
doesn't cross the DFSG line, it comes very damned close to doing it.

If RMS intends this sort of contamination (I don't believe he's even
considered the issue fully) then we CANNOT ship things like Apache with
Debian unless we get permission from Linus and the other kernel Copyright
holders to do so, in writing (or at least in email with modified license
terms to be applied to the next release of the kernel)

Should this interpretation of the GPL become dominant I believe we should
deprecate the GPL in favor of a license which does not skirt the letter of
the DFSG while violating its spirit in favor of some license which
doesn't.  (Which would suck because I don't know of any other suitable
licenses that do anything like what the GPL does..)

Further, should v3 of the GPL explicitly say something to the effect of
your interpretation, I think we should modify the DFSG to make that
license non-free.  You are trying to apply a double standard to Copyright
law in order to make what you don't like a license violation while
allowing the same exact relationship in other cases to be considered

And you can't say that the allowance for major portions of the OS to not
be GPL fixes the problem since the requirement is being MADE BY those
major portions, for which there is no exception.

*anxiously awaiting Brian's URL to the Nintendo v. Galoob thing which will
hopefully settle this..*

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