Re: Installing Debian with only 64mb RAM
On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 15:49:55 +0300
Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 08:04:10 -0400
> Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 12:38:40 +0300
> > Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > ...
> >
> >
> > > No. 'Embedded' ends if your RAM exceeds 1M. In that case you really
> > > need stripped-down kernel. 64M is plenty as long as you don't run X
> > > with all the bells and whistles.
> >
> > Whose definition of embedded is this?
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embedded_system
>
> [CPU] Word lengths vary from 4-bit to 64-bits and beyond, although the
> most typical remain 8/16-bit.
>
>
> Linux's minimum requirement of 32 bits is really pushing the limit of
> "embedded".
Your opinion, but you haven't provided any real source for your
stringent definition.
> > Cheap, low end consumer grade
> > routers these days usually have at least 4 MB of RAM - and I just
> > checked the homepage of the OpenWrt wiki, and noticed a note referring
> > to "lower end devices with only 16 MiB RAM". Are you saying that these
> > are not considered embedded?
>
> As long as you can install additional software - it's not "embedded".
> OpenWrt is the full-blown multipurpose OS. The real "embedded" system
> consists of OS kernel and one single userspace program. And that's it.
>
> True, it's considered easier to patch a Linux kernel and write some
> PHP-based (end inevitably - full of security holes) "web-application"
> to manage a router. Which, along with a router can serve as
> file-server, torrent seed-box and brewing a coffee :)
> Hence OpenWrt, dd-wrt, and a hundred of their clones.
>
> Good examples of embedded system include (but aren't limited, of
> course) Sun's ILOM, HP's BMC or that thing they put instead of OS into
> every SIM-card in existence.
Okay, so you just basically disagree with the OpenWrt devs on the
definition of embedded:
"OpenWrt is described as a Linux distribution for embedded devices."
Celejar
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