Re: How to setup the console to greek ?
Στις 29/Δεκ/2004, ημέρα Τετάρτη και ώρα 23:11, ο/η Michelle Konzack
έγραψε:
> # I am not on the List. Please CC me.
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> > > But 'mc' does not work with Unicode
> >
> > There has been a patch circa June 2004. I do not use mc myself though,
> > so cannot tell about the quality of this. You may google on "midnight
> > command utf-8" for more.
>
> I know, I was orking on it too, but it is crap !
> ...and I am on the mailinglist of Midnight Commander.
I hope something good comes out.
> > The patch is a real hack, so the maintainers are not happy to include.
> > Check out the thread on LKML (see Bugzilla links). I am not sure how
> > comfortable you are to recompile the kernel. The patch is really small.
>
> OK, I will try it out.
>
> > > > You can view documents in Unicode on the console, documents with several
> > > > scripts such as Latin (all western), Cyrillic, Arabic and Hebrew. The
> > >
> > > I was using "LatArCyrHeb" as font with Unicode and have tried to filter
> > > in 'mutt' with "libfribidi" for Arabic... but it is the hell !!!
> > >
> > > It lakes the shaping.
> >
> > Shaping? You mean in arabic where characters get joined together? I
> > suppose it's one of the limitations of the console. For Greece there are
> > Unicode codepoints for every combination of greek characters
> > with/without accents, so it's easy.
>
> This is curently missing in arabic :-(
> Unfortunatly I am learning arabic a little bit to slow...
>
> Question: Is this a font-issue or one of the application ?
It's rather a Unicode. The Linux console has severe limitations with
combining characters and there is not much interest to fix. However,
when you work on X (X.org), all these problems are solved, arabic and
many other languages work like a charm.
>
> I have this question, because I am coding some new Applications and
> I like to programm it correctly from the beginning. I do not like
> double Jobs because Applications today must support i18n and bidi.
>
> Speak: Must work with ALL languages.
Use either GNOME or KDE. My subjective preference would be GNOME. A lot
of the work is subclassed in the toolkit.
In addition, the pango library does miracles. Look for "GTK+" and
"pango".
Make sure your application uses Unicode everywhere.
> > I am not familiar with Debian. Does Debian support the "kbd" package as
> > other distros do? I think Debian supports "lct" (Linux Console Tools),
> > which are rather unmaintained and non-utf8 friendly.
>
> We use kbd too.
> console-* is standard in Debian.
>
> > The way to go is Unicode. In Fedora you simply touch the files
> > /etc/sysconfig/i18n and /etc/sysconfig/keyboard and the rest is
> > automatic. The console input/dead keys is problematic and unless someone
> > writes a proper Unicode input mechanism, it's not possible to go all
> > Unicode for both console and X.
> > Oh, you could vote for
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=143014
> >
> > Regards,
> > Simos
>
> Thankyou very much
> Michelle
Simos
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