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Am 2004-12-29 22:49:30, schrieb Simos Xenitellis:
> ???????? 29/??????/2004, ?????????? ?????????????? ?????? ?????? 22:24, ??/?? Michelle Konzack
> ????????????:
> > Loading /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwerty/gr.kmap.gz
> > findfile(): timeout waiting for undead child(ren) ?
>
> Hmm, it's a "known" issue. I though it got fixed by now. Debian GR
> anyone?
I have tried the gr.kmap.gz from SARGE too
Same problem...
> Simply uncompress the file. The gr.kmap file calls other files and there
> is some sort of race condition there. The same command (loadkeys gr)
> works if the file is uncompressed.
Trying...
athina@michelle1:~ > loadkeys gr
Loading /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwerty/gr.kmap
unknown keysym `cent'
/usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwerty/gr.kmap:6: parse error
syntax error in map file
key bindings not changed
> > But 'mc' does not work with Unicode
>
> There has been a patch circa June 2004. I do not use mc myself though,
> so cannot tell about the quality of this. You may google on "midnight
> command utf-8" for more.
I know, I was orking on it too, but it is crap !
...and I am on the mailinglist of Midnight Commander.
> The patch is a real hack, so the maintainers are not happy to include.
> Check out the thread on LKML (see Bugzilla links). I am not sure how
> comfortable you are to recompile the kernel. The patch is really small.
OK, I will try it out.
> > > You can view documents in Unicode on the console, documents with several
> > > scripts such as Latin (all western), Cyrillic, Arabic and Hebrew. The
> >
> > I was using "LatArCyrHeb" as font with Unicode and have tried to filter
> > in 'mutt' with "libfribidi" for Arabic... but it is the hell !!!
> >
> > It lakes the shaping.
>
> Shaping? You mean in arabic where characters get joined together? I
> suppose it's one of the limitations of the console. For Greece there are
> Unicode codepoints for every combination of greek characters
> with/without accents, so it's easy.
This is curently missing in arabic :-(
Unfortunatly I am learning arabic a little bit to slow...
Question: Is this a font-issue or one of the application ?
I have this question, because I am coding some new Applications and
I like to programm it correctly from the beginning. I do not like
double Jobs because Applications today must support i18n and bidi.
Speak: Must work with ALL languages.
> I am not familiar with Debian. Does Debian support the "kbd" package as
> other distros do? I think Debian supports "lct" (Linux Console Tools),
> which are rather unmaintained and non-utf8 friendly.
We use kbd too.
console-* is standard in Debian.
> The way to go is Unicode. In Fedora you simply touch the files
> /etc/sysconfig/i18n and /etc/sysconfig/keyboard and the rest is
> automatic. The console input/dead keys is problematic and unless someone
> writes a proper Unicode input mechanism, it's not possible to go all
> Unicode for both console and X.
> Oh, you could vote for
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=143014
>
> Regards,
> Simos
Thankyou very much
Michelle
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