Re: knoppix 4.02 upgrade
On Saturday 07 January 2006 04:11 am, Napoleon Manuel wrote:
> Hi Laszlo,
> When I try to start kde, the process is not completed and returns to the
> start menu. I can run iceWM and terminal and thats all.
What do you mean by this? X startup fails, then you end up at the F-1 root
shell? If so, prior to retyping startX, can you start
syslog, /etc/init.d/sysklogd start then try startx, and when that fails
again, check the logs. If there is any relevant info logged in syslog or kdm
or XFree86 or other log, mount a floppy, copy the logs to the floppy, then
when your system is up where you can send out emails, paste the log info in
the next response.
Also, on an underpowered system (slow cpu, low memory) it can take a loooong
time for kde to start. You state it returns to start menu. Are you sure
this is happening or are you ending the process yourself because it seems
like there is nothing happening for minutes?
Have you tried installing and starting gnome?
> I just re-installed knoppix 4.02 and avoided running apt-get upgrade. It is
> ok now but lately I ran into a problem wherein I cannot use the keyboard.
> It locked! Though am able to start kde and run it without my keyboard! Am
> still trying to figure it out.
Have you tried a different keyboard? Keyboards die. Is this perhaps a
localization issue? If using a keyboard driver/module other than US PC101 or
similar, have you tried the generic US keyboard choice to rule out a problem
with the keyboard? Perhaps another localization issue?
Have you tried starting sshd, setting a password, then logging in remotely via
ssh, to check the remote keyboard? Do you have another keyboard of same
make/model to try via ssh? Tried removing/reloading the keyboard module (if
that's possible via ssh)? Is the keyboard USB, then try PS/2, is the
keyboard PS/2, then try USB? Is the keyboard USB, problems with other USB
Have you checked the kernel mailing list to check for issues with the kernel
in the current knoppix and your particular brand motherboard/keyboard?
Last time I checked, Knoppix was a mix of testing, unstable and a bit of
experimental. Have you checked to see (google) if there are issues with the
kernel in the knoppix version you are using and your keyboard choice? Or with
kde? Sometimes an apt-get update, upgrade just prior to finalizing a release
may introduce issues that just started creeping into unstable or testing.
Klaus can't test every combo or every setup prior to getting each release
out. So some incompatibilities crop up from time to time that can't get fixed
till the next release unless the distro is installed to disk and
updated/upgraded. Perhaps an experimental driver/module is being used for
your keyboard, and you may be able to downgrade from experimental to
unstable, or unstable to testing for that particular module?
Can't think of anything else right now.
> Best regards.
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Laszlo <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> To: email@example.com; Napoleon Manuel <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> Cc: email@example.com
> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 11:51:20 AM
> Subject: Re: knoppix 4.02 upgrade
> On Thursday 29 December 2005 01:10 am, Napoleon Manuel wrote:
> > I ran apt-get update and apt-get upgrade on my knoppix 4.02 hd
> > installation.
> > The problem is I can no longer run kde on my system. Though am able to
> > run iceWM and terminal. Can somebody help me please?
> > Napoleon
> Did you receive help on this issue? Didn't see it until now. What happens
> when you try to start firstname.lastname@example.org
> During some upgrades of kde it sometimes takes some hand editing of kdm to
> keep kde working. This was an issue for me a while back while Debian Sarge
> was still Testing, and a major version of kde entered Sarge.
> Don't remember why, but somehow one desktop ended up running kde using gdm
> as the window manager instead of kdm. Since kdm is a rather large config
> file, you may want to try using gdm temporarily, if that works, until you
> can email@example.com your way through the config file of
> Have you checked the logs for errors in XFree86 or whatever the newest
> versions of X knoppix is now using? Do you have a kdm directory in
> /var/log? For example in the desktop where I have gdm as the controlling
> config file even though I'm running kde, I don't have a kdm log file, but I
> do have a gdm directory where I can look for error messages.
> Is your sources list correct?
> -- Laszlo
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