[debian-knoppix] Re: debian-knoppix digest, Vol 1 #738 - 9 msgs
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> 1. Re: Preliminary release plan (was Re: [debian-knoppix] new version)
(LF)
> 2. USB talk (Lobster)
> 3. Update Knoppix installed in hard Disk (Willy Walker)
> 4. Re: Update Knoppix installed in hard Disk (Dieter Wirz)
> 5. Xircom CBT pcmcia bluetooth card (Pat)
> 6. Re: Update Knoppix installed in hard Disk (Bill Eastman)
> 7. Re: Update Knoppix installed in hard Disk (Klaus Knopper)
> 8. Re: Update Knoppix installed in hard Disk (Alexander Schmehl)
> 9. Re: Xircom CBT pcmcia bluetooth card (debian-knoppix@waibschd.de)
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> Message: 1
> From: LF <luka@ljudmila.org>
> Subject: Re: Preliminary release plan (was Re: [debian-knoppix] new
version)
> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 15:59:10 +0100
> To: debian-knoppix@linuxtag.org
>
> ho!
> fresh teasers, much obliged, dear santa klaus...
>
> > - Some more interactive options for selecting language/services on
> > bootup via dialog menus.
>
> may i suggest this dialog behave in an 'display manager' like way and
> pop
> up again after log-out, permitting reconfiguration, starting another
> session, eject (shutdown) and reboot. having the machine automatically
> turn off when the X dies is a minor annoyance on cd, but rather worse
> when installed to harddisk in knoppix mode (to preserve hw autoconfig).
> and i also realize this automatism is a feature in its own which maybe
> needs preserving for some application.
>
> in a minor digression one machine here today has 16 days uptime running
> from a CD. for many things a shell, browser and X server go a long way.
>
> > - NTFS write support by using a linux kernel loader for native
> > windows ntfs.sys (if present on the corresponding ntfs partition).
>
> 1. knoppix, 2. total world domination, 3. profit!!!
>
> > - Experiments with an overlay file system to allow easier on-the-fly
> > installations of new software and possibly eliminating the need of
> > a
> > separate /ramdisk virtual partition.
>
> i guess this would also mean logs and modified etc files could be
> 'kept' on such a persistent overlay? looks sweet... if installing
> works, i recommend also including apt-iselect
>
> LF
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 02:54:50 +0000
> To: debian-knoppix@linuxtag.org
> From: Lobster <edjason@britishlibrary.net>
> Subject: [debian-knoppix] USB talk
>
>
> > allow inclusion of more drivers in the kernel and initrd (USB and
> > Firewire, possibly), since the space on the 1.44 MB floppy is
>
> The USB key rings are growing in popularity and capacity
> -the ability to have a whole OS on USB
> WITH all ones data will soon be with us . . .
>
> :-)
>
>
> > - Project fork of a beginner and blind-friendly "talking" version with
> > different voices and languages, with most of the "complicated
> > expert-only stuff" removed. This version may rely on Kernel
> > 2.6.0 because of the newer soundcard drivers for
> > cheap/badly-designed/windows-only soundchips.
>
> Klaus this idea that experts and beginners have different needs
> I have never understood . .
> you just have a button/script for advanced user options
>
> If it is a problem with space that is something else . . .
>
> :-)
>
> Lobster
>
>
>
> ALMS v1 for Windoze
>
> "Lob, it works! I've had a migraine for the past two days.I downloaded and
> installed ALMS and spent some time looking at the features and then
settled
> in for some relaxation and meditation with it... The guided suggestions
> you've included there reminded me to really relax my neck and back and the
> migraine has vanished after spending time with ALMS."
> Joyce from HolyGeeks
> www.cyber-shaktipat.org/relax/alms.html
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 18:58:25 +0100
> From: Willy Walker <willywalker@supercable.es>
> Reply-To: Willy Walker <willywalker@supercable.es>
> Organization: TTD
> To: debian-knoppix@linuxtag.org
> Subject: [debian-knoppix] Update Knoppix installed in hard Disk
>
> El lunes, 05 de enero de 2004 a las 18:57
> Usando The Bat 2.01.50 en Windows XP=20
>
> Hola, debian-knoppix.
>
> Is posible update a old knoppix installed in hard disk?
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 23:53:49 +0100
> From: Dieter Wirz <wirzd@gmx.net>
> To: Willy Walker <willywalker@supercable.es>
> Cc: debian-knoppix@linuxtag.org
> Subject: Re: [debian-knoppix] Update Knoppix installed in hard Disk
> Organization: unibas
>
> On Monday, 05 Jan 2004, Willy Walker wrote:
> > Is posible update a old knoppix installed in hard disk?
>
> Once knoppix is installed on a hard disk, it's no more a Knoppix;-) it's a
> Debian/Gnu Linux. And Debian is very well upgradable (Hint: apt-get,
> aptitude, sources.list....)
>
> But AFAIK there is no possibility to insert an-up-to-date Knoppix-CD and
> type knoppix_upgrade .
>
> Regards
>
> -didi
>
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> Message: 5
> From: Pat <pknoob@noos.fr>
> Reply-To: pknoob@noos.fr
> To: debian-knoppix@linuxtag.org
> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 01:32:41 +0100
> Subject: [debian-knoppix] Xircom CBT pcmcia bluetooth card
>
> I read on http://www.holtmann.org/linux/bluetooth/devices.html that my
Xircom
> CBT is supposed to work on linux yet when I do a Wavelan configuration I
get
> a "No wireless card found" although it's there (i use knoppix 3.3).
>
>
> any suggestions?
>
> thanx in advance
>
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>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 00:38:40 -0600
> From: Bill Eastman <beastman@austin.rr.com>
> To: Dieter Wirz <wirzd@gmx.net>
> Cc: Willy Walker <willywalker@supercable.es>,
> debian-knoppix@linuxtag.org
> Subject: Re: [debian-knoppix] Update Knoppix installed in hard Disk
>
> Dieter Wirz wrote:
> > On Monday, 05 Jan 2004, Willy Walker wrote:
> >
> >> Is posible update a old knoppix installed in hard disk?
> >
> >
> > Once knoppix is installed on a hard disk, it's no more a Knoppix;-) it's
a
> > Debian/Gnu Linux. And Debian is very well upgradable (Hint: apt-get,
> > aptitude, sources.list....)
> >
> > But AFAIK there is no possibility to insert an-up-to-date Knoppix-CD and
> > type knoppix_upgrade .
> >
>
> What about burning the new iso, and then use the apt-cd (or whatever
> part of apt upgrades from the cdrom)?
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 08:45:46 +0100
> From: Klaus Knopper <knopper@linuxtag.org>
> To: Bill Eastman <beastman@austin.rr.com>
> Cc: Dieter Wirz <wirzd@gmx.net>,
> Willy Walker <willywalker@supercable.es>, debian-knoppix@linuxtag.org
> Subject: Re: [debian-knoppix] Update Knoppix installed in hard Disk
> Organization: LinuxTag e.V.
>
> On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 12:38:40AM -0600, Bill Eastman wrote:
> > Dieter Wirz wrote:
> > >On Monday, 05 Jan 2004, Willy Walker wrote:
> > >
> > >> Is posible update a old knoppix installed in hard disk?
> > >
> > >
> > >Once knoppix is installed on a hard disk, it's no more a Knoppix;-)
it's a
> > >Debian/Gnu Linux. And Debian is very well upgradable (Hint: apt-get,
> > >aptitude, sources.list....)
> > >
> > >But AFAIK there is no possibility to insert an-up-to-date Knoppix-CD
and
> > >type knoppix_upgrade .
> > >
> >
> > What about burning the new iso, and then use the apt-cd (or whatever
> > part of apt upgrades from the cdrom)?
>
> You can do a
>
> for i in $(COLUMNS=240 dpkg -l | awk '{print $2}')
> do
> echo dpkg-repack --root=/KNOPPIX "$i"
> done
>
> to create packages from a running KNOPPIX CD to a writable harddisk
> partition, and install/update these packages with dpkg -i.
>
> Using the Knoppix repository at http://developer.linuxtag..net/knoppix/
> plus the standard debian mirrors is easier, though.
>
> Regards
> -Klaus Knopper
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 08:52:11 +0100
> From: Alexander Schmehl <schmehl@cs.uni-frankfurt.de>
> To: debian-knoppix@linuxtag.org
> Subject: [debian-knoppix] Re: Update Knoppix installed in hard Disk
>
>
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> * Bill Eastman <beastman@austin.rr.com> [040106 07:38]:
>
>
> > >But AFAIK there is no possibility to insert an-up-to-date Knoppix-CD
and
> > >type knoppix_upgrade .
> > What about burning the new iso, and then use the apt-cd (or whatever=20
> > part of apt upgrades from the cdrom)?
>
> This will not work, since the knoppix iso contains allready installed
> packages, which are not recognized by apt-cdrom.
>
> However you could mount the knoppix.iso, mount the cloop-file, chroot
> to it, use dpkg-repack to repack the installed packages, and use them
> to upgrade your allready installed packages.
>
> Well, I think running "apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade" is much easier
> than that ;)
>
>
> Yours sincerely,
> Alexander
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> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 11:51:25 +0100 (CET)
> From: debian-knoppix@waibschd.de
> To: Pat <pknoob@noos.fr>
> Cc: debian-knoppix@linuxtag.org
> Subject: Re: [debian-knoppix] Xircom CBT pcmcia bluetooth card
>
> On Tue, 6 Jan 2004, Pat wrote:
>
> > I read on http://www.holtmann.org/linux/bluetooth/devices.html that my
Xi=
> rcom
> > CBT is supposed to work on linux yet when I do a Wavelan configuration I
=
> get
> > a "No wireless card found" although it's there (i use knoppix 3.3).
> >
> >
> > any suggestions?
>
> If you use Bluetooth, you have to use the Bluetooth-Utils. wlancfg ist
> used only for 802.11a/b/g-nics. maybe you have to install some additional
> bluetooh-packages.
>
> >
> > thanx in advance
>
> you are welcome
>
> yasar
>
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