Re: [debian-knoppix] Suggestions for knoppix
> On Sat, 2004-01-03 at 20:09, Robert Storey wrote:
> > 4) I have another issue with the Knoppix installers. The most important
> > feature still lacking is the ability to install the distro across
> > multiple partitions. It should be possible to create separate
> > partitions for /, /boot, /home, /tmp, /usr, /var, /opt and swap. This
> > has important security implications if you are running a server.
I would not use knoppix to install a server.
knx-hdinstall uses cfdisk and it wasn't hard to make it a multiple
partition install. Use tar, edit fstab, and run lilo.
My current desktop was installed with knoppix and it has 7 partitions.
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> >
> > 1) Cheat codes. Looking at the file knoppix-cheatcodes.txt, one finds 45
> > cheat codes. When you first boot, you are advised to press F2 for a list
> > of booting options, but only 13 cheat codes are display. My suggestion -
> > after pressing F2 and seeing 13 cheat codes, how about it says "Press F3
> > for more options". And when you press F3, you'll be presented with 13
> > more cheat codes and there should be a displayed message "Press F4 for
> > more options". And of course, finally F5. Using F2 through F5 gives
> > enough space to display 52 cheat codes, which is more than enough.
>
> It would be nice to see all of the cheat codes before bootup.
>
> > 2) The hard disk installers. Many newbies would like to install Knoppix
> > to the hard drive, but it's not immediately obvious how to do this. To
> > find out about the existence of knx-hdinstall and knoppix-installer, you
> > have to search on the Internet or ask the mailing list. I know the
> > possibility of including an "Install Me" button has been discussed, but
> > I'd like to suggest an even easier way that requires no programming.
> > When you first boot up the Knoppix CD, you are presented with a splash
> > screen. How about including the instructions right there in the splash
> > screen:
> >
> > To install Knoppix to the hard disk, type "knx-hdinstall" or
> > "knoppix-installer" at the root@tty1[/]# prompt.
>
> Even better, how about a lilo/syslinux prompt for installation? Like...
>
> knoppix init=/usr/bin/knx-hdinstall
>
> might work, but what about a cheat code for
>
> knoppix hd-install
>
> or something?
>
> > 4) I have another issue with the Knoppix installers. The most important
> > feature still lacking is the ability to install the distro across
> > multiple partitions. It should be possible to create separate
> > partitions for /, /boot, /home, /tmp, /usr, /var, /opt and swap. This
> > has important security implications if you are running a server.
>
> I agree this would be a good feature, but if I was running a server to
> expose via the Internet, I wouldn't be installing it via knoppix. If
> you want more control over your installer, just use the Debian one. It
> will let you use cfdisk to partition and you can create your mount
> points before installing. Knoppix can be a great tool for seeing what
> modules are needed on your particular hardware, or what XF86Config
> works. If you want to duplicate the Debian packages, you could do `dpkg
> get-selections > Packages` from the knoppix CD and the do a `dpkg
> set-selections < Packages` in the Debian installation. But I wouldn't
> want XFree86 and KDE on my server.
>
> > 5) OK, I realize the above suggestions will consume a little bit of
> > space (especially the firewall), so something has to be removed to make
> > room. What would I eliminate? How about: /usr/X11R6/bin/xedit which
> > occupies 476K. There are already plenty of other good editors on Knoppix
> > (Vi, Vim, Emacs, Nedit and Kedit), and Xedit really isn't that good.
> > Guarddog occupies only 216K, and there are other firewalls that are even
> > smaller.
>
> That's the reason why so many knoppix-like CDs have joined the fold.
> Each person has a different use for it. I love knoppix primarily for
> data recovery (e.g. from friends' Windows computers after they crash)
> and for experimenting on new hardware. It's really hard to have an
> all-in-one solution as a general computing platform and system recovery
> and 'show off CD' and the list goes on. I'm glad that creating one's
> own custom CD is documented. I'm looking to create my own with XFCE 4,
> data recovery, and maybe the Debian net-installer on a 180 MB mini-CD.
> I might even throw 2.6.0 on it. :-)
>
> Jeremy
>
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> Jeremy Turner <jeremy@linuxwebguy.com>
> The LinuxWebGuy
>
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