[debian-knoppix] Cloop OS on CF card?
I am interested in experimenting with using a cloop compressed stripped down
Knoppix on a CF as an embedded operating system. Has anyone done this
already? Something along the lines of when you copy the image into RAM but
instead it would be running off of a CF card. So that way my embedded OS
would be much larger than the CF it is on when not compressed.
Any help or direction to look would be appreciated.
-Jascha
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: kde broken, apt-get update problems (Klaus Knopper)
2. Re: kde broken, apt-get update problems (Holger Zebner)
3. another newbie question (Catherine Kostyn)
4. Re: another newbie question (Andreas Kostyrka)
5. Re: where can I get knoppix packages? (Klaus Knopper)
6. Re: Problem with attempt to correct dependencies (Riccardo Cappellaro)
7. RE: kde broken, apt-get update problems (M. Edward Borasky)
8. Re: another newbie question (Klaus Knopper)
9. Re: kde broken, apt-get update problems (Klaus Knopper)
10. re: mounting problems (Catherine Kostyn)
11. Re: re: mounting problems (Ralph Bacolod)
12. Re: re: mounting problems (Ralph Bacolod)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:30:49 +0100
From: Klaus Knopper <knopper@linuxtag.org>
To: Jeff Bauer <jbauer@rubic.com>
Cc: debian-knoppix@linuxtag.org
Subject: Re: [debian-knoppix] kde broken, apt-get update problems
Organization: LinuxTag e.V.
On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 04:22:37AM -0600, Jeff Bauer wrote:
> Knoppix-Debian newbie here. I was so impressed with
> the Knoppix distribution that I installed in on a new
> system. However, after a few days of playing with
> it, I think I've managed to break it by attempting
> to apt-get some KDE development tools. Presently
> some KDE applications such a Konqueror are now
> broken.
>
> Attempting to "apt-get update" also fails with the
> errors listed below.
>
> Q1. What's the easiest way to get things working
> again without a re-install?
apt-get update ; apt-get install -t unstable kdelibs4 konqueror
> Will the bad coonnection
> to people.debian.org eventually get resolved and
> fix the problem?
No idea. You can ask the maintainers.
> Q2. I obviously caused an overwrite that broke
> something. How can I prevent this from occurring
> in the future?
Avoid experiments on a production system. ;-)
Regards
-Klaus Knopper
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Message: 2
From: Holger Zebner <holgerzebner@gmx.de>
To: debian-knoppix@linuxtag.org
Subject: Re: [debian-knoppix] kde broken, apt-get update problems
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:09:04 +0100
Hi
> Q1. What's the easiest way to get things working
> again without a re-install? Will the bad coonnection
> to people.debian.org eventually get resolved and
> fix the problem?
edit /etc/apt/sources.conf
There are some Debian servers down due to a hack.
set a # before that one. I think the same with non-US.
They also realeased a new version of woody. Check their site.
Holger
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Message: 3
From: Catherine Kostyn <ckostyn@sbcglobal.net>
Reply-To: ckostyn@sbcglobal.net
To: debian-knoppix@linuxtag.org
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:39:42 +0100
Subject: [debian-knoppix] another newbie question
I really appreciate all of your hard work, and even more appreciate your
kindness and helpfulness to someone so new to all of this.
There is probably an easy solution, and I have tried to research it but
everything suggested I cannot find anything that works.
I cannot seem to mount my cd-rom or floppy, let alone my zup (external)
All I can seem to find is along the lines of :
mount cd-rom
or
mount /dev/cd
none of it works, I get a message that it wasn't found in fstab.
I looked at man mount, and the above was all I could seem to find related to
mounting cd-roms.
I would appreciate it if someone could point me in the right direction,
obviously there is something that I need to do before mounting it, but I
can't seem to find any more detailed information.
Thanks!
Catherine
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:49:19 +0100
From: Andreas Kostyrka <andreas@mtg.co.at>
To: Catherine Kostyn <ckostyn@sbcglobal.net>
Cc: debian-knoppix@linuxtag.org
Subject: Re: [debian-knoppix] another newbie question
On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 11:39:42AM +0100, Catherine Kostyn wrote:
> mount cd-rom
> or
> mount /dev/cd
>
> none of it works, I get a message that it wasn't found in fstab.
Well, try:
mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
mount /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom
Andreas
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:26:31 +0100
From: Klaus Knopper <knopper@knopper.net>
To: Pat <pknoob@noos.fr>
Cc: debian-knoppix@linuxtag.org
Subject: Re: [debian-knoppix] where can I get knoppix packages?
Organization: Knopper Networks
On Sun, Nov 23, 2003 at 03:08:56PM +0100, Pat wrote:
> where can I download packages such as mkmenusfromkde-knoppix? I tried to
> apt-get install them but they're not there anymore.
http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/sources/
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Message: 6
From: Riccardo Cappellaro <hittozu@aliceposta.it>
Reply-To: hittozu@aliceposta.it
To: "Debian-Knoppix" <debian-knoppix@linuxtag.org>
Subject: Re: [debian-knoppix] Problem with attempt to correct dependencies
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:31:58 +0100
> # apt-get -f install
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> Correcting dependencies... Done
> The following extra packages will be installed:
> libxcursor-dev
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
> libxcursor-dev
> 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 207 not upgraded.
> 20 not fully installed or removed.
> Need to get 0B/27.3kB of archives.
> After unpacking 135kB of additional disk space will be used.
> Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
> (Reading database ... 115412 files and directories currently installed.)
> Unpacking libxcursor-dev (from .../libxcursor-dev_1.0.2-2_i386.deb) ...
> dpkg: error processing
> /var/cache/apt/archives/libxcursor-dev_1.0.2-2_i386.deb
> ( --unpack):
> trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xcursor/Xcursor.h', which
> is also i n package xlibs-dev
> Errors were encountered while processing:
> /var/cache/apt/archives/libxcursor-dev_1.0.2-2_i386.deb
> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
try this: dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/
libxcursor-dev_1.0.2-2_i386.deb
it wil install the package and than run apt again.
Cheers
Rik
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Message: 7
Reply-To: <znmeb@cesmail.net>
From: "M. Edward Borasky" <znmeb@aracnet.com>
To: <debian-knoppix@linuxtag.org>
Subject: RE: [debian-knoppix] kde broken, apt-get update problems
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:02:45 -0800
Organization: Borasky Research
Actually, the way Knoppix interacts with the package system is a little =
more
broken than just the KDE issues. I just ordered a CD of the 11-19-2003
release (mine is apparently a beta 3.3 from September) just to get the =
new
KDE and OpenOffice. But the version I currently have is seriously flawed
when you try to use "dselect". Once you start "dselect", you end up =
removing
dozens of packages. This is a real show-stopper for me -- I depend on
"dselect" with "woody", where it works flawlessly. Is this fixed in
11-19-2003??
Regarding the hacks on the Debian site: I knew something was wrong when =
I
couldn't get to the security update sites over the weekend. I assumed it =
was
"just" a DoS attack at the time. As of yesterday, I still couldn't get =
to
"packages.debian.org", although most everything else seems to be up if =
you
don't mind an occasional page coming up in Swedish instead of US =
English. So
... Our worthy competitor Bill Gates has offered a rather substantial =
cash
bounty for information against the virus creators that wreaked such =
havoc on
his user community over the summer. How many millions of Debian and =
other
GNU/Linux/FreeBSD users are there? What if each of us donated $1US to a
bounty fund to be used against the thugs who mount DoS attacks and crack
free software sites?
Avoid experiments on a production system? But what if your product is
research? <ducking>
--=20
M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
mailto:znmeb@borasky-research.net
http://www.borasky-research.net
=20
"Suppose that tonight, while you sleep, a miracle happens - you wake up
tomorrow with what you have longed for! How will you discover that a =
miracle
happened? How will your loved ones? What will be different? What will =
you
notice? What do you need to explode into tomorrow with grace, power, =
love,
passion and confidence?" -- L. Michael Hall, PhD
> -----Original Message-----
> From: debian-knoppix-admin@linuxtag.org=20
> [mailto:debian-knoppix-admin@linuxtag.org] On Behalf Of Klaus Knopper
> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 4:31 AM
> To: Jeff Bauer
> Cc: debian-knoppix@linuxtag.org
> Subject: Re: [debian-knoppix] kde broken, apt-get update problems
>=20
>=20
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 04:22:37AM -0600, Jeff Bauer wrote:
> > Knoppix-Debian newbie here. I was so impressed with
> > the Knoppix distribution that I installed in on a new
> > system. However, after a few days of playing with
> > it, I think I've managed to break it by attempting
> > to apt-get some KDE development tools. Presently
> > some KDE applications such a Konqueror are now
> > broken.
> >=20
> > Attempting to "apt-get update" also fails with the
> > errors listed below.
> >=20
> > Q1. What's the easiest way to get things working
> > again without a re-install?
>=20
> apt-get update ; apt-get install -t unstable kdelibs4 konqueror
>=20
>=20
> > Will the bad coonnection
> > to people.debian.org eventually get resolved and
> > fix the problem?
>=20
> No idea. You can ask the maintainers.
>=20
> > Q2. I obviously caused an overwrite that broke
> > something. How can I prevent this from occurring
> > in the future?
>=20
> Avoid experiments on a production system. ;-)
>=20
> Regards
> -Klaus Knopper
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> debian-knoppix@linuxtag.org=20
> http://mailman.linuxtag.org/mailman/listinfo/d> ebian-knoppix
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:45:59 +0100
From: Klaus Knopper <knopper@knopper.net>
To: Catherine Kostyn <ckostyn@sbcglobal.net>
Cc: debian-knoppix@linuxtag.org
Subject: Re: [debian-knoppix] another newbie question
Organization: Knopper Networks
On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 11:39:42AM +0100, Catherine Kostyn wrote:
> I really appreciate all of your hard work, and even more appreciate your
> kindness and helpfulness to someone so new to all of this.
>
> There is probably an easy solution, and I have tried to research it but
> everything suggested I cannot find anything that works.
>
> I cannot seem to mount my cd-rom or floppy, let alone my zup (external)
>
> All I can seem to find is along the lines of :
>
> mount cd-rom
> or
> mount /dev/cd
On Knoppix, you can just access CD-Rom or floppy data at /mnt/floppy/ or
/mnt/cdrom/ , /mnt/cdrom1/ , /mnt/cdrom2/ ... No manual mounts necessary.
Otherwise, and also on other GNU/Linux derivates, you can mount any
media at any location. Look into /etc/fstab for the default
mountpoints.
Regards
-Klaus Knopper
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:17:50 +0100
From: Klaus Knopper <knopper@linuxtag.org>
To: znmeb@cesmail.net
Cc: debian-knoppix@linuxtag.org
Subject: Re: [debian-knoppix] kde broken, apt-get update problems
Organization: Knopper Networks
On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 08:02:45AM -0800, M. Edward Borasky wrote:
> Actually, the way Knoppix interacts with the package system is a little
more
> broken than just the KDE issues. I just ordered a CD of the 11-19-2003
> release (mine is apparently a beta 3.3 from September) just to get the new
> KDE and OpenOffice. But the version I currently have is seriously flawed
> when you try to use "dselect". Once you start "dselect", you end up
removing
> dozens of packages. This is a real show-stopper for me -- I depend on
> "dselect" with "woody", where it works flawlessly. Is this fixed in
> 11-19-2003??
Nothing is fixed, since nothing is broken. Really. You should read the
Debian documentation about how theit update system works.
Please update KDE from the unstable branch, unless you want to downgrade
to the "stable" version 2.2 or fully remove KDE. dselect is not a
sufficient tool for this. Or, at your wish, set the default to
"unstable" in /etc/apt/sources.list if you want to automatically get all
packages from unstable, instead of just upgrading from testing. Or,
upgrade individual packages manually. There are so many solutions to
your problem.
> Regarding the hacks on the Debian site: I knew something was wrong when I
> couldn't get to the security update sites over the weekend. I assumed it
was
> "just" a DoS attack at the time. As of yesterday, I still couldn't get to
> "packages.debian.org", although most everything else seems to be up if you
> don't mind an occasional page coming up in Swedish instead of US English.
So
> ... Our worthy competitor Bill Gates has offered a rather substantial cash
> bounty for information against the virus creators that wreaked such havoc
on
> his user community over the summer. How many millions of Debian and other
> GNU/Linux/FreeBSD users are there? What if each of us donated $1US to a
> bounty fund to be used against the thugs who mount DoS attacks and crack
> free software sites?
Yes, there are currently problems on the Debian archives due to an
attempted break-in on the Debian servers. Please read
the Debian news about this. It has nothing to do with Knoppix.
> Avoid experiments on a production system? But what if your product is
> research? <ducking>
Knoppix is not a product.
Regards
-Klaus Knopper
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:31:21 +0100
From: Catherine Kostyn <ckostyn@sbcglobal.net>
To: debian-knoppix@linuxtag.org
Subject: [debian-knoppix] re: mounting problems
On another forum where someone else had the same problem, he was given
the following command to see just what is at /dev/cdrom:
$ ls -l /dev/cdrom
$ lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Nov 26 16:51 /dev/cdrom ->
/dev/scd0
I tried as an experiment to mount both /dev/cdrom and /dev/scd0
I got nowhere, as you can see below:
root@Catrin:/home/jasmine# mount /dev/scd0
mount: can't find /dev/scd0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
root@Catrin:/home/jasmine# mount /dev/cdrom
mount: No medium found
Any thoughts? I HAVE to be missing something...
Thanks!
Catherine Kostyn
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:42:23 -0800 (PST)
From: Ralph Bacolod <rafiks_rb@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [debian-knoppix] re: mounting problems
To: Debian-knoppix@linuxtag.org
Man mount
--- debian-knoppix-admin@linuxtag.org <ckostyn@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> On another forum where someone else had the same problem, he was given
> the following command to see just what is at /dev/cdrom:
>
> $ ls -l /dev/cdrom
>
> $ lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Nov 26 16:51 /dev/cdrom ->
> /dev/scd0
>
> I tried as an experiment to mount both /dev/cdrom and /dev/scd0
> I got nowhere, as you can see below:
>
> root@Catrin:/home/jasmine# mount /dev/scd0
> mount: can't find /dev/scd0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
>
> root@Catrin:/home/jasmine# mount /dev/cdrom
> mount: No medium found
>
> Any thoughts? I HAVE to be missing something...
>
> Thanks!
>
> Catherine Kostyn
>
>
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:42:47 -0800 (PST)
From: Ralph Bacolod <rafiks_rb@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [debian-knoppix] re: mounting problems
To: Debian-knoppix@linuxtag.org
Man mount
cheers!
--- debian-knoppix-admin@linuxtag.org <ckostyn@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> On another forum where someone else had the same problem, he was given
> the following command to see just what is at /dev/cdrom:
>
> $ ls -l /dev/cdrom
>
> $ lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Nov 26 16:51 /dev/cdrom ->
> /dev/scd0
>
> I tried as an experiment to mount both /dev/cdrom and /dev/scd0
> I got nowhere, as you can see below:
>
> root@Catrin:/home/jasmine# mount /dev/scd0
> mount: can't find /dev/scd0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
>
> root@Catrin:/home/jasmine# mount /dev/cdrom
> mount: No medium found
>
> Any thoughts? I HAVE to be missing something...
>
> Thanks!
>
> Catherine Kostyn
>
>
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