Re: [debian-knoppix] Cloop OS on CF card?
You can do this as a more or less straight Knoppix remaster. What
I wound up doing was getting a 1GB CF and putting Knoppix on that. For
most embedded uses you'll want to get it down to 150-200MB or so - there
are already some stripped down versions that you can add packages to that
would easily come in under that.
I set up syslinux in /dev/hda1, and then the regular knoppix image
in hda2. There are probably different ways to do it.
- Chad
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Jascha wrote:
>
> I am interested in experimenting with using a cloop compressed stripped down
> Knoppix on a CF as an embedded operating system. Has anyone done this
> already? Something along the lines of when you copy the image into RAM but
> instead it would be running off of a CF card. So that way my embedded OS
> would be much larger than the CF it is on when not compressed.
>
> Any help or direction to look would be appreciated.
>
> -Jascha
>
>
>
>
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> 1. Re: kde broken, apt-get update problems (Klaus Knopper)
> 2. Re: kde broken, apt-get update problems (Holger Zebner)
> 3. another newbie question (Catherine Kostyn)
> 4. Re: another newbie question (Andreas Kostyrka)
> 5. Re: where can I get knoppix packages? (Klaus Knopper)
> 6. Re: Problem with attempt to correct dependencies (Riccardo Cappellaro)
> 7. RE: kde broken, apt-get update problems (M. Edward Borasky)
> 8. Re: another newbie question (Klaus Knopper)
> 9. Re: kde broken, apt-get update problems (Klaus Knopper)
> 10. re: mounting problems (Catherine Kostyn)
> 11. Re: re: mounting problems (Ralph Bacolod)
> 12. Re: re: mounting problems (Ralph Bacolod)
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:30:49 +0100
> From: Klaus Knopper <knopper@linuxtag.org>
> To: Jeff Bauer <jbauer@rubic.com>
> Cc: debian-knoppix@linuxtag.org
> Subject: Re: [debian-knoppix] kde broken, apt-get update problems
> Organization: LinuxTag e.V.
>
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 04:22:37AM -0600, Jeff Bauer wrote:
> > Knoppix-Debian newbie here. I was so impressed with
> > the Knoppix distribution that I installed in on a new
> > system. However, after a few days of playing with
> > it, I think I've managed to break it by attempting
> > to apt-get some KDE development tools. Presently
> > some KDE applications such a Konqueror are now
> > broken.
> >
> > Attempting to "apt-get update" also fails with the
> > errors listed below.
> >
> > Q1. What's the easiest way to get things working
> > again without a re-install?
>
> apt-get update ; apt-get install -t unstable kdelibs4 konqueror
>
>
> > Will the bad coonnection
> > to people.debian.org eventually get resolved and
> > fix the problem?
>
> No idea. You can ask the maintainers.
>
> > Q2. I obviously caused an overwrite that broke
> > something. How can I prevent this from occurring
> > in the future?
>
> Avoid experiments on a production system. ;-)
>
> Regards
> -Klaus Knopper
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 2
> From: Holger Zebner <holgerzebner@gmx.de>
> To: debian-knoppix@linuxtag.org
> Subject: Re: [debian-knoppix] kde broken, apt-get update problems
> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:09:04 +0100
>
> Hi
> > Q1. What's the easiest way to get things working
> > again without a re-install? Will the bad coonnection
> > to people.debian.org eventually get resolved and
> > fix the problem?
> edit /etc/apt/sources.conf
>
> There are some Debian servers down due to a hack.
> set a # before that one. I think the same with non-US.
> They also realeased a new version of woody. Check their site.
>
> Holger
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 3
> From: Catherine Kostyn <ckostyn@sbcglobal.net>
> Reply-To: ckostyn@sbcglobal.net
> To: debian-knoppix@linuxtag.org
> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:39:42 +0100
> Subject: [debian-knoppix] another newbie question
>
> I really appreciate all of your hard work, and even more appreciate your
> kindness and helpfulness to someone so new to all of this.
>
> There is probably an easy solution, and I have tried to research it but
> everything suggested I cannot find anything that works.
>
> I cannot seem to mount my cd-rom or floppy, let alone my zup (external)
>
> All I can seem to find is along the lines of :
>
> mount cd-rom
> or
> mount /dev/cd
>
> none of it works, I get a message that it wasn't found in fstab.
>
> I looked at man mount, and the above was all I could seem to find related to
> mounting cd-roms.
>
> I would appreciate it if someone could point me in the right direction,
> obviously there is something that I need to do before mounting it, but I
> can't seem to find any more detailed information.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Catherine
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:49:19 +0100
> From: Andreas Kostyrka <andreas@mtg.co.at>
> To: Catherine Kostyn <ckostyn@sbcglobal.net>
> Cc: debian-knoppix@linuxtag.org
> Subject: Re: [debian-knoppix] another newbie question
>
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 11:39:42AM +0100, Catherine Kostyn wrote:
> > mount cd-rom
> > or
> > mount /dev/cd
> >
> > none of it works, I get a message that it wasn't found in fstab.
> Well, try:
> mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
> mount /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom
>
> Andreas
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:26:31 +0100
> From: Klaus Knopper <knopper@knopper.net>
> To: Pat <pknoob@noos.fr>
> Cc: debian-knoppix@linuxtag.org
> Subject: Re: [debian-knoppix] where can I get knoppix packages?
> Organization: Knopper Networks
>
> On Sun, Nov 23, 2003 at 03:08:56PM +0100, Pat wrote:
> > where can I download packages such as mkmenusfromkde-knoppix? I tried to
> > apt-get install them but they're not there anymore.
>
> http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/sources/
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 6
> From: Riccardo Cappellaro <hittozu@aliceposta.it>
> Reply-To: hittozu@aliceposta.it
> To: "Debian-Knoppix" <debian-knoppix@linuxtag.org>
> Subject: Re: [debian-knoppix] Problem with attempt to correct dependencies
> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:31:58 +0100
>
> > # apt-get -f install
> > Reading Package Lists... Done
> > Building Dependency Tree... Done
> > Correcting dependencies... Done
> > The following extra packages will be installed:
> > libxcursor-dev
> > The following NEW packages will be installed:
> > libxcursor-dev
> > 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 207 not upgraded.
> > 20 not fully installed or removed.
> > Need to get 0B/27.3kB of archives.
> > After unpacking 135kB of additional disk space will be used.
> > Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
> > (Reading database ... 115412 files and directories currently installed.)
> > Unpacking libxcursor-dev (from .../libxcursor-dev_1.0.2-2_i386.deb) ...
> > dpkg: error processing
> > /var/cache/apt/archives/libxcursor-dev_1.0.2-2_i386.deb
> > ( --unpack):
> > trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xcursor/Xcursor.h', which
> > is also i n package xlibs-dev
> > Errors were encountered while processing:
> > /var/cache/apt/archives/libxcursor-dev_1.0.2-2_i386.deb
> > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
>
> try this: dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/
> libxcursor-dev_1.0.2-2_i386.deb
>
> it wil install the package and than run apt again.
>
> Cheers
>
> Rik
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 7
> Reply-To: <znmeb@cesmail.net>
> From: "M. Edward Borasky" <znmeb@aracnet.com>
> To: <debian-knoppix@linuxtag.org>
> Subject: RE: [debian-knoppix] kde broken, apt-get update problems
> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:02:45 -0800
> Organization: Borasky Research
>
> Actually, the way Knoppix interacts with the package system is a little =
> more
> broken than just the KDE issues. I just ordered a CD of the 11-19-2003
> release (mine is apparently a beta 3.3 from September) just to get the =
> new
> KDE and OpenOffice. But the version I currently have is seriously flawed
> when you try to use "dselect". Once you start "dselect", you end up =
> removing
> dozens of packages. This is a real show-stopper for me -- I depend on
> "dselect" with "woody", where it works flawlessly. Is this fixed in
> 11-19-2003??
>
> Regarding the hacks on the Debian site: I knew something was wrong when =
> I
> couldn't get to the security update sites over the weekend. I assumed it =
> was
> "just" a DoS attack at the time. As of yesterday, I still couldn't get =
> to
> "packages.debian.org", although most everything else seems to be up if =
> you
> don't mind an occasional page coming up in Swedish instead of US =
> English. So
> ... Our worthy competitor Bill Gates has offered a rather substantial =
> cash
> bounty for information against the virus creators that wreaked such =
> havoc on
> his user community over the summer. How many millions of Debian and =
> other
> GNU/Linux/FreeBSD users are there? What if each of us donated $1US to a
> bounty fund to be used against the thugs who mount DoS attacks and crack
> free software sites?
>
> Avoid experiments on a production system? But what if your product is
> research? <ducking>
>
> --=20
> M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
> mailto:znmeb@borasky-research.net
> http://www.borasky-research.net
> =20
> "Suppose that tonight, while you sleep, a miracle happens - you wake up
> tomorrow with what you have longed for! How will you discover that a =
> miracle
> happened? How will your loved ones? What will be different? What will =
> you
> notice? What do you need to explode into tomorrow with grace, power, =
> love,
> passion and confidence?" -- L. Michael Hall, PhD
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: debian-knoppix-admin@linuxtag.org=20
> > [mailto:debian-knoppix-admin@linuxtag.org] On Behalf Of Klaus Knopper
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 4:31 AM
> > To: Jeff Bauer
> > Cc: debian-knoppix@linuxtag.org
> > Subject: Re: [debian-knoppix] kde broken, apt-get update problems
> >=20
> >=20
> > On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 04:22:37AM -0600, Jeff Bauer wrote:
> > > Knoppix-Debian newbie here. I was so impressed with
> > > the Knoppix distribution that I installed in on a new
> > > system. However, after a few days of playing with
> > > it, I think I've managed to break it by attempting
> > > to apt-get some KDE development tools. Presently
> > > some KDE applications such a Konqueror are now
> > > broken.
> > >=20
> > > Attempting to "apt-get update" also fails with the
> > > errors listed below.
> > >=20
> > > Q1. What's the easiest way to get things working
> > > again without a re-install?
> >=20
> > apt-get update ; apt-get install -t unstable kdelibs4 konqueror
> >=20
> >=20
> > > Will the bad coonnection
> > > to people.debian.org eventually get resolved and
> > > fix the problem?
> >=20
> > No idea. You can ask the maintainers.
> >=20
> > > Q2. I obviously caused an overwrite that broke
> > > something. How can I prevent this from occurring
> > > in the future?
> >=20
> > Avoid experiments on a production system. ;-)
> >=20
> > Regards
> > -Klaus Knopper
> > _______________________________________________
> > debian-knoppix mailing list
> > debian-knoppix@linuxtag.org=20
> > http://mailman.linuxtag.org/mailman/listinfo/d> ebian-knoppix
> >=20
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:45:59 +0100
> From: Klaus Knopper <knopper@knopper.net>
> To: Catherine Kostyn <ckostyn@sbcglobal.net>
> Cc: debian-knoppix@linuxtag.org
> Subject: Re: [debian-knoppix] another newbie question
> Organization: Knopper Networks
>
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 11:39:42AM +0100, Catherine Kostyn wrote:
> > I really appreciate all of your hard work, and even more appreciate your
> > kindness and helpfulness to someone so new to all of this.
> >
> > There is probably an easy solution, and I have tried to research it but
> > everything suggested I cannot find anything that works.
> >
> > I cannot seem to mount my cd-rom or floppy, let alone my zup (external)
> >
> > All I can seem to find is along the lines of :
> >
> > mount cd-rom
> > or
> > mount /dev/cd
>
> On Knoppix, you can just access CD-Rom or floppy data at /mnt/floppy/ or
> /mnt/cdrom/ , /mnt/cdrom1/ , /mnt/cdrom2/ ... No manual mounts necessary.
>
> Otherwise, and also on other GNU/Linux derivates, you can mount any
> media at any location. Look into /etc/fstab for the default
> mountpoints.
>
> Regards
> -Klaus Knopper
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:17:50 +0100
> From: Klaus Knopper <knopper@linuxtag.org>
> To: znmeb@cesmail.net
> Cc: debian-knoppix@linuxtag.org
> Subject: Re: [debian-knoppix] kde broken, apt-get update problems
> Organization: Knopper Networks
>
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 08:02:45AM -0800, M. Edward Borasky wrote:
> > Actually, the way Knoppix interacts with the package system is a little
> more
> > broken than just the KDE issues. I just ordered a CD of the 11-19-2003
> > release (mine is apparently a beta 3.3 from September) just to get the new
> > KDE and OpenOffice. But the version I currently have is seriously flawed
> > when you try to use "dselect". Once you start "dselect", you end up
> removing
> > dozens of packages. This is a real show-stopper for me -- I depend on
> > "dselect" with "woody", where it works flawlessly. Is this fixed in
> > 11-19-2003??
>
> Nothing is fixed, since nothing is broken. Really. You should read the
> Debian documentation about how theit update system works.
>
> Please update KDE from the unstable branch, unless you want to downgrade
> to the "stable" version 2.2 or fully remove KDE. dselect is not a
> sufficient tool for this. Or, at your wish, set the default to
> "unstable" in /etc/apt/sources.list if you want to automatically get all
> packages from unstable, instead of just upgrading from testing. Or,
> upgrade individual packages manually. There are so many solutions to
> your problem.
>
> > Regarding the hacks on the Debian site: I knew something was wrong when I
> > couldn't get to the security update sites over the weekend. I assumed it
> was
> > "just" a DoS attack at the time. As of yesterday, I still couldn't get to
> > "packages.debian.org", although most everything else seems to be up if you
> > don't mind an occasional page coming up in Swedish instead of US English.
> So
> > ... Our worthy competitor Bill Gates has offered a rather substantial cash
> > bounty for information against the virus creators that wreaked such havoc
> on
> > his user community over the summer. How many millions of Debian and other
> > GNU/Linux/FreeBSD users are there? What if each of us donated $1US to a
> > bounty fund to be used against the thugs who mount DoS attacks and crack
> > free software sites?
>
> Yes, there are currently problems on the Debian archives due to an
> attempted break-in on the Debian servers. Please read
> the Debian news about this. It has nothing to do with Knoppix.
>
> > Avoid experiments on a production system? But what if your product is
> > research? <ducking>
>
> Knoppix is not a product.
>
> Regards
> -Klaus Knopper
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:31:21 +0100
> From: Catherine Kostyn <ckostyn@sbcglobal.net>
> To: debian-knoppix@linuxtag.org
> Subject: [debian-knoppix] re: mounting problems
>
> On another forum where someone else had the same problem, he was given
> the following command to see just what is at /dev/cdrom:
>
> $ ls -l /dev/cdrom
>
> $ lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Nov 26 16:51 /dev/cdrom ->
> /dev/scd0
>
> I tried as an experiment to mount both /dev/cdrom and /dev/scd0
> I got nowhere, as you can see below:
>
> root@Catrin:/home/jasmine# mount /dev/scd0
> mount: can't find /dev/scd0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
>
> root@Catrin:/home/jasmine# mount /dev/cdrom
> mount: No medium found
>
> Any thoughts? I HAVE to be missing something...
>
> Thanks!
>
> Catherine Kostyn
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:42:23 -0800 (PST)
> From: Ralph Bacolod <rafiks_rb@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [debian-knoppix] re: mounting problems
> To: Debian-knoppix@linuxtag.org
>
> Man mount
> --- debian-knoppix-admin@linuxtag.org <ckostyn@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > On another forum where someone else had the same problem, he was given
> > the following command to see just what is at /dev/cdrom:
> >
> > $ ls -l /dev/cdrom
> >
> > $ lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Nov 26 16:51 /dev/cdrom ->
> > /dev/scd0
> >
> > I tried as an experiment to mount both /dev/cdrom and /dev/scd0
> > I got nowhere, as you can see below:
> >
> > root@Catrin:/home/jasmine# mount /dev/scd0
> > mount: can't find /dev/scd0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
> >
> > root@Catrin:/home/jasmine# mount /dev/cdrom
> > mount: No medium found
> >
> > Any thoughts? I HAVE to be missing something...
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Catherine Kostyn
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > debian-knoppix mailing list
> > debian-knoppix@linuxtag.org
> > http://mailman.linuxtag.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-knoppix
>
>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:42:47 -0800 (PST)
> From: Ralph Bacolod <rafiks_rb@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [debian-knoppix] re: mounting problems
> To: Debian-knoppix@linuxtag.org
>
> Man mount
>
> cheers!
> --- debian-knoppix-admin@linuxtag.org <ckostyn@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > On another forum where someone else had the same problem, he was given
> > the following command to see just what is at /dev/cdrom:
> >
> > $ ls -l /dev/cdrom
> >
> > $ lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Nov 26 16:51 /dev/cdrom ->
> > /dev/scd0
> >
> > I tried as an experiment to mount both /dev/cdrom and /dev/scd0
> > I got nowhere, as you can see below:
> >
> > root@Catrin:/home/jasmine# mount /dev/scd0
> > mount: can't find /dev/scd0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
> >
> > root@Catrin:/home/jasmine# mount /dev/cdrom
> > mount: No medium found
> >
> > Any thoughts? I HAVE to be missing something...
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Catherine Kostyn
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > debian-knoppix mailing list
> > debian-knoppix@linuxtag.org
> > http://mailman.linuxtag.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-knoppix
>
>
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