On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 11:04:31PM +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008, Michael Stone wrote:No, not particularly at this point; I think there are plenty of bug reports indicating that the userspace components in debian don't support juju well.well that is quite a shame!?! juju is been released on the third fedora release
Whoopie. Fedora is irrelevant for a whole host of reasons, which boil down to the fact that we're talking about a kernel for the debian usespace, not the fedora userspace.
for most userspace apps there exist working patches as documented by post of libdc1394 maintainer.
Did you ever answer the question about whether those pushing for only the new firewire stack were actually using it for digital video?
A start to doing something useful would be to admit that there is no possibility that the new firewire stack can be reasonably tested for video applications by the time lenny freezes.we reverted for etch+half, if userspace stays as lame as currently it is still an option for Lenny but we'd prefer out of several provided grounds not to be forced to do that.
So the "purity" of your package means that people who want to digital video over firewire in debian just get the shaft? Again: there is *no reasonable way* that the new firewire stack can be tested in debian for lenny at this point. The longer that the kernel package drags its feet on including both firewire stacks, the longer it will take to write & polish the documentation on how to use that configuration. (E.g., the libraw1394 README.Debian says that things should just work with a debian kernel--which used to be true, but isn't anymore.) To leave things they way they are is itself "lame".
Mike Stone