Re: sarge3 kernel build & r3
Sven Luther <sven.luther@wanadoo.fr> writes:
> On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 09:33:54PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>> Sven Luther <sven.luther@wanadoo.fr> writes:
>>
>> > That said, currently, backports are not an easy solution because of udev,
>> > which cannot be taken as is without pulling in the whole gnome, so a bit of
>> > work is needed.
>> >
>> > Friendly,
>> >
>> > Sven Luther
>>
>> What do you mean? You don't seriously mean udev depends on gnome?
>
> The version of udev in unstable means it cannot be installed with the stable
> gnome. I don't remember the details, but it involves gnome-volume-manager, the
> hal thingy and another package.
But that is probably not something that can even be solved
easily. udev changed quite a lot since sarge and anything interacting
with it, like gnome-volume-manager, probably can't be fixed.
>> Does the stable gnome conflict with the backports udev? Is that realy
>> a problem? It is inconvenient but if the depends are that way then it
>> can't be helped. As long as it works that's fine by me.
>
> I think there is some work needed on the sid udev to have it compile in a
> sarge environment, it is possible, it may even have been done for
> backport.org, but it doesn't build out of the box like the other packages.
>
> And since udev is needed for initramfs-tools, which is needed by the kernels,
> ...
Yes, there was work needed but that ahs been done. Backports has a
udev so that is solved.
>> Also do you think that is an usual situation? Will it arise again for
>> etch? I would think this is only a short term problem till etch comes
>> out.
>
> udev is a mess, i can only hope that this will not come to happen in the
> future (even Linus had very harsh words about the current situation), but i
> can't promise anything. Already it is not possible in the current state to
> have upgrade udev with the 2.6.8 kernel installed.
>
> Friendly,
>
> Sven Luther
Sux, doesn't it. :(
MfG
Goswin
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