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Re: Bug#333858: Proposed improved patch for yaird



On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 11:48:05PM +0200, Erik van Konijnenburg wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 05:32:11PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 01:54:25PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > > On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:51:43 +0200 Sven Luther <sven.luther@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 11:31:28AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > > > > > What do you think?
> 
> Let's see if I can summarise.  I haven't actually used Alioth yet,
> so please correct me if I suggest something impossible ...

Cool.

> Erik wants two separate projects for yaird-core and debian-subdir;
> this is acceptable to both Sven and Jonas.
> 
> Jonas wants project stuff like mailing lists to be separate from
> debian-kernel both for yaird-core and debian-subdir;
> to Sven this is acceptable: the repo matters, not the list.
> 
> Sven wants at least debian-subdir to be part of kernel repo.
> 
> [ Hmm, with the Nordic names, this is starting to sound like
> some scandinavian novel, where everyone spends at least 30 years
> brooding ... we should be able to do better than that :-) ]

:)

> Can you both work with the following?
> 
> * there are two alioth projects: yaird-core and yaird-debian-subdir,
>   with mailing lists separate from debian-kernel.

Well, i suppose this means the creation of a single new mailing list on alioth
for yaird, 

> * yaird-core has a repository separate from svn://svn.debian.org/kernel/

Ok, altough it could be a single subdir inside the kernel repo,  more to this
below ...

> * yaird-debian-subdir is stored as part of the kernel repo, on the
>   understanding that unannounced breaking of stuff in the repo would be a
>   ground to move the debian-subdir repo elsewhere.
>   That would mean loss of history, and nobody wants that,
>   but lets be up front about what to do if this approach does not
>   work out.

That sounds fine, altough i am thinking there is a serious misunderstanding
going on here. What kind of repo breakage do you expect ? I have now been
working with subversion for over a year, maybe more even, and i fail to see
what kind of breakage could happen, that would not affect also a separate
yaird repo.

So, to make your plan more concrete :

1) Jonas or you ask for the creation of a yaird project on alioth (named
yaird), as well as the creation of a subversion repository and create a yaird
mailing list. The subversion repo is configured send commit mails to this list
(can be a separate list if there is huge volume of commits involved, but
should be ok at first), and maybe a CIA bot could be created to send commit
logs to irc, maybe to the debian-kernel channel if you don't want to do a
separate yaird channel.

2) The debian-kernel svn repo is modified to hold just the debian dir, with a
mention of where to find the latest upstream tarball.

I will even subscribe to the separate alioth list :)

Friendly,

Sven Luther



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