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Bug#319878: kernel-image-2.6-686: the entire range of 2.6 debian kernels do not install on m/cs with <= 48mb RAM

hi jurij,

i invite you to think ahead to when the 2.4 kernel is no longer

i invite you to consider where debian will stand at that time with
respect to older hardware.

should debian be possible to install on older hardware in two,
three years time, or should people who are not as fortunate and
as computer literate as yourself, myself and mr horms, either
throw the machine away or utilise an alternative distribution?

regarding the tone of my second report: you are entitled to
dismiss it, just as mr horms is equally entitled to dismiss
my first report.

dismissal and blatant disregard of reports, however, does not solve

_instant_ dismissal, especially dismissals that contain
assumptions that clearly indicate a lack of thought and
foresight, are guaranteed to drive me absolutely fucking nuts.


On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 11:21:29AM -0400, Jurij Smakov wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Jul 2005, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> >telling people to "roll their own" kernel (mr horms) isn't an
> >acceptable option, either.  i may be able to do that (mr horms)
> >but other people won't be able to.
> >
> >you going (mr horms) to tell me and people like me that i
> >should throw away perfectly good hardware????
> >
> >possible solutions:
> >
> >* fix the bloody 2.6 kernel so it doesn't use so much damn memory.
> >
> >* fix the debian-specific, debian-created and debian-responsible
> > initrd ramdisk so it doesn't require so much damn memory.
> >
> >* provide an alternate "compact" ramdisk if fixing the "default"
> > ramdisk isn't a viable option.
> I would not normally reply to a message written in this tone, so if you 
> would like this discussion to continue, I suggest you cool it down a 
> notch.
> You are the only person in a long time to complain that 2.6 kernels do not 
> work on low-memory machines, so the niche is not as big as you claim. So, 
> since you are so interested in it, why not look at the solutions, which 
> would actually result in something constructive:
> * YOU work on fixing the initrd/initramfs for lowmem machines and suggest
>   a solutions to initrd-tools maintainer.
> * YOU find a config which works on lowmem systems and submit it to kernel
>   team for consideration of a possibility of building a special lowmem
>   flavour using it.
> * YOU start an alioth project, attract interested people, become a
>   maintainer of a lowmem kernel package and upload it for people to use.
> Honestly, it's a volunteer project and if you want support for something 
> that's not there, the best way is just to roll up your sleeves. Flaming 
> people will never get you anywhere.
> Best regards,
> Jurij Smakov                                        jurij@wooyd.org
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