Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation
On 19/03/17 22:26:28 CET, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> Hello, Francesco, I was thinking as Users we could discuss the options
> here first and then make a proposal of the "debian-plasma-desktop" to
> the KDE team.
> Utilities= ark, kcalc, kwrite, spectacle.
> System= bleachbit, kinfo, partition-manager or gparted, konsole,
> kwalletmanager, synaptic, dolphin. Personally I prefer konqueror and
> kdf over dolphin, maybe just because I've been using konq and kdf, it
> seems like forever.
> Settings= systemsettings
> Office= okular
> Multimedia= vlc, k3b
> Internet= firefox, kget
> Graphics= gwenview
> Things like sddm, plasma-networkmanager, kdeconnect, bluetooth and
> wireless should just work.
Thanks for your suggestions Jimmy. However I'd like to start from the top by
discussing the dependencies required by the *task-kde-desktop* package and
then the other meta-packages.
Here are the dependencies of task-kde-desktop, on the right my suggestions.
Recommends: kdeaccessibility --> change to: Suggests
Recommends: gnome-orca --> change to: Suggests
Recommends: k3b --> change to: Suggests
Recommends: k3b-i18n --> change to: Suggests
Recommends: apper --> substitute with: synaptic
Recommends: dragonplayer --> substitute with: vlc
# kdeaccessibility and gnome-orca
Accessibility tools not essential in a basic installation, they are needed
only in particular cases. These packages should be marked at most as
"suggested" or removed from the dependency list. IMHO the installation of
accessibility tools should be triggered differently and already via the
debian-installer and not listed here.
CD and DVD are not completely abandoned but is a fact that by now they are
superseded by flash drives and other portable storage devices. This package
should be marked as suggested.
It should be dead upstream (it is written in the changelog!) and the
alternative is plasma-discover that is really bugged. The only sane
alternative is synaptic. IMHO package management should be entrusted to a
distro specific tool. However it remains the issue of updates notifications.
They didn't work, at least for me, nor with apper nor with discover. But with
synaptic only? Maybe we should try pk-update-icon (but it has Gnome
It is a really simple player but other applications provide a better user
experience. I prefer smplayer and mpv but I recognize that vlc is a better
choice for the general public and it integrates well with the Plasma Desktop.