Please don't exclude the list in your Reply-To header. On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 05:16, David Pastern wrote: > On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 06:32 +1000, Matej Cepl wrote: > > You know what? I cannot care less if my KDE is running on XFree86 > > or on X.org. [...] the fact that Debian doesn't bother with > > following the latest fashion and stays with really stable XFree86 is > > a sign that it is the user distribution not for developers who are > > typically more interested in how things work, not that they do. > > I'd say a great deal many more people would attest to xorg being just > as stable as xfree86. That is not sufficient to alledge functional necessity to end-users. > It's plain and clear that we have a few 'lackeys' that just love to > suck up to Debian developers, must make you all feel good. In the > end, the average user doesn't really give a shit about the > developers, and doesn't care about how many bugs there are in a > release - they just want a system. If it's buggy, they'll put up > with it, look at Microsoft products. I believe it is fair to say the average Debian user is slightly more clued-in than the average MS user. > Why are we wasting time on supporting archaic, old and dying arches? > When 95% of the Debian users use i386 based architecture, why should > they wait extrordinarily periods of time, so the Debian developers can > get it working on all the arches? Search The Fine Archives. This was explained recently: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/02/msg00995.html In fact, there is significant on-going discussion about this. See DWN for relevant pointers. > Oh, and I paid for my copy of Libranet [...] (afaik Libranet donates a > portion of its profits to Debian). If that is true, it is not widely advertised on their Web site. > So, in effect, i'm partly paying towards the development of Debian, > and as far as i'm concerned it makes me a part share holder and I have > 100% rights to voice my concerns. The right to voice one's opinion as a shareholder at, say, an AGM is generally terminated or at least suspended when one begins to use vulgar language, such as you did (to a greater extent than in the message to which I am replying) here: http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2005/04/msg00064.html Supposedly this was citing the attitude with which you perceive yourself as being faced, though I have not seen evidence of that, nor would it excuse it. http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct Regardless of that, I have to wonder what the aim of criticising Debian developers on a user list. What do you hope to achieve, and how do you see that best being achieved using this tone? -- Alex Nordstrom http://lx.n3.net/ Please do not CC me in followups; I am subscribed to debian-kde.
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