On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 02:58:28AM -0800, tluxt2@yahoo.com wrote: > --- Chris Cheney <ccheney@cheney.cx> wrote: > > As everyone else on this list knows dates like are meaningless since > > it is impossible to predict what will come up and I do have lots of > > outside pressures that will take away some time. However, if you want > > I think, rather than "meaningless", a better phrase would be "subject to > change". The date infomation is, in fact, meaningfull. [Even with the "subject > to change" proviso.] They can actually be meaningless since they can be seen to be misleading if they change. That's why I ignored this list. > This different choice of wording is important, because, IMO, some people in > Debian adopt a philosophy of "it's ready when it's ready", which I believe does > actual damage to the Debian project, and FreeSW in general. Although I won't > do an analysis of this here [even though I believe it to be a very significant > current issue for the Debian project, which deserves significant consideration > (and discussion)] I think it would be worthwhile for you to consider evaluating > this perspective, and see if you find it valueable to adopt, yourself. So you mean stuff should be ready *before* it's ready? Good plan! Debian doesn't have to move slower than time, but it doesn't have to be full of half-baked shit, either. > [Interested readers can learn more relevant to this issue at > Debian doesn't have to be slower than time. Joel Baker > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/debian-devel-200202/msg01069.html ] > > > a pretty date list here it is. > > > > 2/24 - finish kdebase > > 2/25 - finish kdeadmin > > 2/26 - finish kdegraphics > > 2/27 - finish kdemultimedia > > 2/28 - finish kdenetwork > > 3/ 1 - finish kdepim > > 3/ 2 - finish kdeutils > > 3/ 3 - finish kde-meta > > 3/ 4 - finish kde-i18n > > 3/ 5 - finish kdebindings > > 3/ 6 - finish kdoc > > > > kdebase appears to be the biggest obstacle currently, and the others > > are probably easier to fix. I have been working on kdebase for about > > 5 days so far and I think it is almost finished. > > At what point in the above schedule will the Debian archive be in a state that > doing > > apt-get update > apt-get upgrade > apt-get install kde > > will properly install the kde metapackage on a bare Sid system? After the > (projected) 3/3 "finish kde-meta" is done? > > Also: Same question, but for kdebase. > > Request: Will you please send a message to the list when those are actually > ready to go, so those who are waiting for those events will know it's safe to > now do those installs? > > Also: If you would fit it in your schedule to do a weekly update/(progress > report) on the schedule, that would be very helpful. Why don't you do this, based on information you've collected? You're the only one agitating for it. -- Daniel Stone <daniel@sfarc.net> <wolfie> DanielS: it wont let me post <wolfie> i click preview <DanielS> wolfie: have you ever thought to hit OK? <wolfie> oh <wolfie> yeah just figured that out
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