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Re: eight packages could possibly go to main!




Hello Etienne,

I repeat: I am simply pointing you to the relevant documentation,

Thanks for the pointers. I am aware of those discussions, having followed some of them on this list.

but I am not willing to discuss the issue.

I don't want to restart that discussion either ;-)

I was asking you a yes or no question about what you meant in your message: you agree the GPL would only apply to programs that can run only with Kaffe, and cannot run with, say, Sun's JVM? Looking at the message you linked to, I would assume yes, based on:
"A given java program does not require this class library in order to
function, because it will also work with a range of other class
libraries from different vendors, and therefore is not a derivative
work. Therefore, the GPL does not cross this so-called "interface
boundary"
to which you agreed, stressing the "range ... vendors".

The other question might rather be to Dalibor: do you know of any program that falls into that category?

If the first answer is yes, and the second no, as I expect, then the point about the GPL is only theoretical. In this case, I think it's not very fair to Kaffe and its developers not to make that clear when you say:

The biggest problem is that Kaffe is licensed under the GNU GPL, so if an
application/library can only be compiled with Kaffe, it must be licensed
under the GPL too (or at least be "license compatible" with the GPL).

Given that this case seldom/never happens, I wouldn't say this is the "biggest" problem. I would say that the biggest problem of Kaffe, which it shares with all other open-source VMs, is the lack of free libraries to go with it (although there is great work being done in this area, and luckilly inside classpath so all VMs benefit from it).

Cordially,

Daniel



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