Maarten van der Hoef wrote: > Every day I see multiple replies with the same suggestions just because > the repliers weren't able to see the latest reply. As hardware costs about null > these days, I wouldn't know any other bottleneck (bandwidth, nehh ). > So what's the problem with this list ? > > Don't get me wrong, I'm very happy with this list, just curious about it's > big latency. The latency on the debian lists is typically measured in minutes, but sometimes we get these big spikes. Received: from murphy.debian.org (murphy.debian.org [146.82.138.6]) by kitenet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0621DAA54B for <joey@kitenet.net>; Fri, 2 May 2003 00:51:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by murphy.debian.org (Postfix) with QMQP id A0A6F1FBE8; Thu, 1 May 2003 19:50:20 -0500 (CDT) Old-Return-Path: <maarten@tiberium.cysonet.com> Received: from tiberium.cysonet.com (userservices.cyso.nl [217.170.2.41]) by murphy.debian.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B4E11F96F for <debian-isp@lists.debian.org>; Thu, 1 May 2003 19:34:19 -0500+(CDT) Received: from tiberium.cysonet.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiberium.cysonet.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id+h420YHJv011226 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK) for <debian-isp@lists.debian.org>; Fri, 2 May 2003 02:34:17 +0200 Received: (from maarten@localhost) by tiberium.cysonet.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-5) id h420YHQ2011225 for debian-isp@lists.debian.org; Fri, 2 May 2003 02:34:17 +0200 There seems to be a bit more latency than usual today, though 17 minutes is not exactly bad. http://murphy.debian.org/mrtg/ may be helpful in diagnosing these things, though I am not adept at reading it. But I don't think cutting mailing list latency will significantly help multiple replies. Many users use POP or IMAP, and this just adds latency, often on the order of half an hour or an hour or whatever the pop/imap check interval is. I only sync mailboxes via IMAP once an hour, I see one other reply to your message, but it's been 20 minutes already since my last mailbox sync, and there could easily be more that say the same thing I'm saying here. I generally figure that the advantage of slightly different points of view is worth the disadvantage of multiple replies. -- see shy jo
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