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Re: Third call for votes for the debian project leader election 2006

Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt <he@ftwca.de>
> MJ Ray <mjr@phonecoop.coop> writes:
> > Remember, you're the idiot who started the polemic "... bullshit.
> > If they would really care ..." lunacy that I was mimicking. That
> > is unacceptable behaviour and I ask you to correct it.
> I really don't think that *you* are in a position to ask other people to
> correct their behaviour.

Firstly, I dispute the implied criticism. Secondly, if you
do think I'm rude, then *me* of all people claiming your
message is too rude should make you check it!

Do you think that calling the views of others a farmyard
by-product and denying their stated interest in debian is
good style? What purpose does it serve? From
http://www.uk.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct -
"Do not use foul language [...] Try not to flame;"

> > [...]
> >> Naturally, those docs are mainly speaking about the NM process as
> >> applicant doing packaging work. The reason for this is quite simple -
> >> more than 95% of the people expressing their wish to join do
> >> packaging work.
> > Where do you get that 95% statistic from?
> That one's easy. I'm FD and know how many translators have spoken about
> becoming a developer in relevant places - either by actually applying,
> mailing the FD or speaking about it on the respective mailing lists. The

Do you compile and publish this sort of interesting statistic
anywhere? (Could anyone else? Where is Front Desk mail archived?)

> number is quite small (about 4 people, depending what you count as
> "interest in an account"), while we had more than 134 people who applied
> in the last year in total, with *no* translator or documentation NMs
> under them.

How many translators are active in the project?
Does that absence of translator DD applicants suggest a problem?

> > If so, that alone should ring the alarm bells, as packaging alone
> > doesn't seem like 95% of the work that we're struggling to get done.
> I don't know, but I know that a lot of work done for website
> maintainance, translation management and documentation is done by people
> who are also package maintainers. People doing non-packaging exclusively
> are quite unusual.

I suspect they're unusual within NM, not unusual in general.

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