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Re: hurddocs.org site rollout!

On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 08:59:32AM +0300, Ognyan Kulev wrote:

> People need such site.

Hey, *I* need such a site and I'm resonably knowledgable. =)  I keep up 
only because I've been following this for many years, I can't imagine 
starting now.

> About the browsers: I can't tell lynx is "decent".  It's a terminal browser
> that generally support HTML 3.2 but not much more.  Last time I tried
> Mozilla (M14) it crashes often.  I heard that M16 isn't so bad but this is a
> beta software (Actually I'm not sure if it is alpha because I see nowhere in
> mozilla.org that milestones are beta).  So I think that Netscape 4.x and IE
> 4.0 must be supported because they are the popular browsers now.  Especially
> among average beginners.

When using the "strict" mode of html 4.0, it is considerably simpler than 
html 3.2.  Lynx just ignores the style sheets for the most part, which 
helps it render well.

You've got a reasonable point re: Netscape & IE.  The reason that I 
wanted to use the style sheets is because I want the site to be fully 
usable on the simplest browsers, as well as on non PC browsers (like 
PDAs).  My idea is that a tech with a palm pilot should be able to sit in 
front of a Hurd terminal and trouble shoot it over a simple low-bandwidth 
wireless connection.  these things will only really be possible once we 
abandon using tables to do markup, and switch to using style sheets to 
handle layout.

For now, I will probably write some Javascript that pops up a window on 
IE and NN4 and explains why the site looks wrong.

PS: FWIW Mozilla 16 is supposed to be excellent.  I tend to download the 
nightly snapshots and I use netscape only for java-based or ssl-based 
browsing (I'm too lazy to figure out how to make ssl work with mozilla.  
I know that it's possible though).  I think M17 is due Tuesday, but I 
think they're about 7 days behind sched.

"It is easy to be blinded to the essential uselessness of computers by
the sense of accomplishment you get from getting them to work at all."
 - Douglas Adams

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