Re: Hamradio blend website and live images
On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 04:23:16PM +0000, Dave Hibberd wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> I've finally sorted out my GPG key and other issues that were holding me back from uploading.
>
> I had a support message from someone yesterday who pulled our live image from here [1] and was asking about wsjtx.
> The most recent live image of the blend we've got up is of Debian 8.5.0 - pretty out of date by any standards.
>
> Given the webpage hasn't been updated in some time, I suggest a short term solution to pull links for the live images and just direct people towards metapackages. I spoke with irl and the source currently lives here [3].
>
> Longer term, is there any desire for continued production of live images? It's clear we've done nothing for the last few years. I had a go at using the debian tools to build a new live image [2] a couple of years back, which was fun.
>
> I like the idea of having the image, and I hope that with CI on salsa, we might actually be able to automate generation of an image - that's definitely a challenge I would be interested in taking on. To get new images on the relevant server we'd need to talk to someone in the debian-cd channel, but thats a "later" problem.
>
> Equally, I can see a good argument against having a live image and just directing users towards metapackages - there's the ongoing maintenance to avoid stale images and the potential expectation of user support.
>
> Has anyone got any strong feelings on this? I lean towards producing a live image, but I'm not going to be upset if the general consensus is "please don't" :)
>
> [1] https://www.debian.org/blends/hamradio/get/live
> [2] https://salsa.debian.org/debian-hamradio-team/hamradio-blend-livecd
> [3] https://salsa.debian.org/webmaster-team/webwml/-/blob/master/english/blends/hamradio/
>
> --
> Hibby
> MM0RFN
>
You'd have to talk to the debian-live team who produce the debian-live images,
for advice, I think. I'm part of the main Debian images team and we normally
only deal with the standard CD images.
The Debian installer team are found on debian-boot. There has been discussion
about how to integrate Debian pure blends in the standard installer but it
hasn't got very far
I think there used to be a Gnuradio live DVD as well but they've stopped doing
it - you might want to see if you can find the maintainers and find out why.
To be honest, you're probably better just to suggest manual installation
of packages onto a Debian system via metapackage or whatever as a short term
measure.
All the very best,
Andy G0EVX
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