Re: Gnome2.2 backport and XFree86 4.3 on woody [was R:e XFree86 4.3 in Woody]
With more help from friends at #debian, I actually managed to get rid of the offending XFree86 files. I then finished the backport install according to James' instructions.
In general, it seems to be working. But I have a few concerns:
1) I think that James and whoever is promoting his backport should have the explanation and instructions he gave me earlier in this thread clearly displayed on the relevant web pages. The average woody user does not subscribe to this list.
2) Every time I install something related to gnome that I didn't have before, I get Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library without further qualifications. However, so far, this has not produced a problem that I am aware of.
3) Gnome2.2 runs much slower than the old Gnome, on the same box. I'm hoping that this ponderousness is a feature of Gnome itself and not related to the backport.
4) James' backport includes an option for Fifth Toe, which I installed. Nice, but as I understand it, Fifth Toe is a constantly updating subsystem of Gnome. So how do changes/updates to Fifth Toe connect to using the backport?
5) Sylpheed does not seem to be working well with Gnome2.2. For example, the help menu toolbar button does not open sylpheed-doc, even though I have it, and certain widgets within the sylpheed configuration GUI do not respond properly do mouse clicks. This may be a bug with sylpheed, or with gnome, or it could be the result of my own mistakes, but I thought I should mention it here first to make sure it had nothing to do with the backport.
6) ...which leads to the more general question: if I'm running the backport of Gnome2.2 on a woody system, how much trouble can i expect to run into when using "gnome-compatible" packages that were not a part of the backport? Obviously, a package that is just plain a part of the old gnome, and has no place in 2.2, shouldn't be expected to work without problems in 2.2. But take something like Sawfish. Officially, it's not part of gnome, right? And yet, as a woody user, I don't have access to the most recent version of it (I think). So, while it should technically work, packages like woody's Sawfish, that are made to be sympatico with gnome, are probably expecting to find the old version of gnome. Is this a problem? How does the end-user with woody and the backport know which woody-gnome packages are going to get along with the backport?
mbc
On 20 Aug 2003 08:55:50 -0400
James Strandboge <jstrand1@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 05:28, Michael Bennett Cohn wrote:
> > >
> > > What is the output of each of these commands?
> > >
> > > dpkg -l|grep freetype
> > > dpkg -l|grep fontconfig
> > > dpkg -l|grep xlibs
> > > dpkg -l|grep libxft2
> > > dkpg -l|grep xserver
> > >
> > > Jamie Strandboge
> >
> > Since our last exchange, I have had some help from a friend on #debian in removing the
>
> > incorrect xfree86 packages. However, I'm not sure how much more has to be done. Here are
>
> > the results you asked for:
> >
> > corinthian:/home/michael# dpkg -l|grep freetype
> > ii libfreetype6 2.0.9-1 FreeType 2 font engine, shared library files
>
> good
>
> > corinthian:/home/michael# dpkg -l|grep xlibs
> > ii xlibs 4.2.1-3.bunk.5 X Window System client libraries
>
> It looks like you have Adrian Bunk's packages installed. As mentioned
> previously, his packages are incompatible with the gnome2.2 backport.
> Make sure Adrian's lines are out of sources.list (and mine are in), then
> do:
>
> apt-get clean (or just remove the xlibs deb from
> /var/cache/apt/archives)
> apt-get update
> dpkg -r --force-depends xlibs
> apt-get -f install
>
> This should install xlibs from my backport.
>
> > corinthian:/home/michael# dpkg -l|grep libxft2
> > ii libxft2 2.1-7woody4 advanced font drawing library for X
> > corinthian:/home/michael# dpkg -l|grep fontconfig
> > ii fontconfig 2.1-14woody5 generic font configuration library
> > ii libfontconfig1 2.1-14woody5 generic font configuration library (shared l
> > corinthian:/home/michael# dpkg -l|grep xserver
>
> good, these look to be from my backport
>
> > ii xserver-common 4.2.1-3.woody3 files and utilities common to all X servers
> > ii xserver-xfree8 4.2.1-3.woody3 the XFree86 X server
>
> these look fine (have same version as in mine).
>
> Seeing that you had Adrian's packages on your system, I don't know what
> the state of you system. At this point, you can try:
>
> apt-get -u dist-upgrade
> apt-get install gnome-core
>
> and see if it works. If not, do:
> COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l|grep bunk
>
> and remove those packages and try again. Remember, to minimize proplems
> have only my backport line in sources.list, along with official woody
> and the woody security updates (some of my packages depend on security
> updates).
>
> Jamie
>
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