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Re: HELIX GNOME packages vs. Debian GNOME packages



Hi Raphael,

On Thu, May 25, 2000 at 02:08:59PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Le Wed, May 24, 2000 at 05:20:26PM -0700, Ossama Othman écrivait:
> > It appears that I missed alot of details regarding the HELIX GNOME
> 
> :-) You can't have missed much because there isn't many things that have
> been discussed publicly. I started a discussion and got some private
> response. I'll give you a summary of what i know at the present time.

Thanks!

> > 	3. Will there be two sets of GNOME packages, the HELIX ones
> > 	   and the Debian ones?
> 
> Actually there's two sets of packages. But I'd like to avoid that. Helix
> will always do their own packages since they have their own schedule and
> don't want to wait some Debian developers to catch up...

Okay, that makes sense.

> But Helix has taken care to make good Debian packages that are drop-in
> replacement of our packages. Their packages may even be of higher
> quality since they are more up-to-date and since they have fixed
> a number of lintian errors/warnings.

It would have been nice to get their updates/patches for our own
packages, but it's really not a big deal either.

> > 	4. If so, is it even worthwhile to maintain the Debian ones?
> 
> I think that keeping 2 separate set of packages would be bad 
> that's why  ...

Yep, I agree.

> Actually Peter Teichman <peter@helixcode.com> is making the Debian
> packages for Helix, and he's a Debian developer for about 1.5 year ...
> he's ready to adopt any Gnome related packages that Helix is 
> also providing since he will do the work for Helix anyway.
> 
> > 		I'd be a little upset if, for example, my packages
> > 		were "yanked out from under me" without notification.
> 
> This won't happen.

I figured as much.  I just wanted to make my opinion known.  :-)

> Since Peter is paid to work on the Debian packages, he would like to take
> over all/many/most of the Gnome related packages that he's maintaining
> at Helix anyway. Of course, he won't hijack your package(s) if you don't
> offer him but [speaking to all Debian developer who are maintaining Gnome
> related packages] please consider this opportunity to lighten the load on
> your shoulders and to leave the work to someone who is volunteer for doing
> it, who is paid for doing it, and who has the time to do it well.
> 
> I'm still discussing some issues with him about the possibility to
> integrate the debian directory in the Gnome CVS and once we have
> everything decided I'll probably contact you (maintainer of Gnome related
> packages) individually or post an announce on debian-devel-announce.
> But if you want to give your package to Peter you can already start to
> contact him (Peter Teichman <pat@debian.org>).

Perhaps it would be good to get a list of what HELIX considers GNOME
related packages.  What about packages that are needed by other sets
packages besides GNOME, such as the GTK and Imlib packages?  Do they
want those too?  If so, what will that mean for packages that aren't
GNOME related/dependent but depend on such core packages, such as
Enlightenment.

BTW, is Peter on this list, or is there a Debian/HELIX list that we
can subscribe to?

-Ossama
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Ossama Othman <ossama@ece.uci.edu>
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