Re: Can't send mail with Gnus! :(
Quoting Peter S Galbraith <p.galbraith@globetrotter.net>:
> Jérôme Marant <jmarant@nerim.net> wrote:
>
> > I've always wanted to switch from Gnus to another Emacs MUA because I
> > don't like its design (its API that is), but I failed to find anything
> > equivalent. And I'm afraid, MH-E is VM-like, according to its
> > documentation (no offence). And VM lacks many important features.
>
> Well, see below. The MH-E documentation is actually obsolete. The new
> manual documenting all the new stuff is be released with the next
> version (V8.0). The modern MH-E is _not_ the once in packaged emacs21
> (although the CVS Emacs does have a more recent version, it also
> doesn't have the latest version; 7.3 vs 7.4.3). The Debian package of
> MH-E is the last stable release. The CVS tree has a few extra features.
OK. I guess you also periodicaly commit it in the Emacs CVS, right?
Please note that I'm still looking for a Gnus replacement, so
if you're able to grant my wishes, I may switch to MH-E :-)
> > So far, if Gnus didn't exist, I would use Wanderlust
> > http://www.gohome.org/wl which offers quite some interesting features.
> >
> > For me, a good MUA needs to handle:
> >
> > - Multiple mailboxes
>
> MH-E simply lies on top on an MH implementation. While there is POP
> support in nmh (and IMAP in mu-mh), I simply use fetchmail to get my
> mail, which gives it to postfix which gives it to procmail. Therefore
> having multiple mailboxes is not a problem.
I also use fetchmail + procmail, so this is not a problem for me.
> > - Hierachical folders : sorting mailboxes in different folders
>
> Procmail can do this, either into separate mail spools or directly into
> MH folders. I do the former, and have an xbuffy displaying the newmail
> count of 17 different spool files. Clicking on them makes MH-E read
> the spool file in question.
How are they displayed in MH-E? Only Speedbar is mentioned.
With Gnus, my main buffer displays something like:
-=-=-=-=-=-=-
[Debian]
debian-devel
debian-emacsen
[Emacs]
emacs-devel
bug-gnu-emacs
-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Debian and Emacs are topics, i.e. some kind of folders where I move
groups (which are mailboxes). I can have topics within topics as
well.
In addition, I can fold topics (but this is not mandatory fo me).
> > - Mailing lists: when replying to the list, setting "To:" properly
> > as well as Mail-Followup-To
>
> MH-E has this for the M-F-T and any other field you wish to set based on
> who you are sending to. I coded it. Customize `mh-auto-fields-list'.
> I'm not sure what you seem by setting the To: field. There is a `reply
> to all' command.
Well, in Mutt, you can define a list of email addresses (the mailing
list email addresses), and when you hit 'l' or 'L', it acts like a
followup: it fills "To:" with the mailing list address (which was found
in the list) but do not add posters to "Cc:" unlike followup.
> > - Multiple personalities: sets of address+organisation+signature and so on
> > that you can switch on the fly
>
> MH-E has got that. I coded it. See the second screenshot in
> http://mh-e.sourceforge.net/screenshots/
>
> You can also set an identity as part of the `mh-auto-fields-list' above.
Is it possible to switch identity through a keystroke?
> > - at least: POP, IMAP, Mbox and Maildir
> > (I must have forgotten many features)
>
> Well, it's got to be MH style mail files.
What does MH supports?
Cheers,
--
Jérôme Marant
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