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Re: skolelinux.org



Hello everyone:

I am new in the list and would like to help you out with
DebianEdu/Skolelinux. As of now, I am just a FLOSS enthusiast, so I am
not a technical expert (at least not yet), so perhaps the best way I
can help you is using my Spanish skills (I am Mexican) to help on the
Wiki, HowTos, documentation, etc.

Please, let me know where to begin, there are a lot documentation here
and there, which I have been reading, but not sure if I am in the
right direction.

Regards.
Edgardo

On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 7:43 AM, Petter Reinholdtsen <pere@hungry.com> wrote:
> [Alexander Alemayhu]
>> Hei everybody,
>
> Hi, and thank you for bringing this up on the list and trying to move
> this issue forward!
>
>> skolelinux.org has been unavailable for awhile now. Not sure how long.
>> According to Petter the site has been taken over. One of the reasons
>> this might have happened is because of lack of maintenance. I propose
>> we do the following: Get the site up from one of the previous backups,
>> on a new machine and do damage control and update DNS when the new
>> site is ready. Why get the site up? It think it would be nice to not
>> to break the links that other people around the web use directing to
>> skolelinux.org. There has been some communication on IRC where C14r
>> and pabs have also shown interest. What do you think we should?
>
> The problem with missing maintenance of www.skolelinux.org is not new.
> It has popped up every few years in the project since the start.  I
> suspect it is mostly because those setting up a new www.skolelinux.org
> site do it to test out some new and cool technology, and fail to focus
> on low maintenance load and lowering the of bar for contributors.  Also,
> fine grained access control features have proved to create hurdles
> keeping potential contributors away.
>
> That is the background for my view on this, as we have had site after
> site with very few people updating and slowly decaying until someone
> else took over and tried again.
>
> I guess we have these options.
>
>  (1) Set up a version of the current www.skolelinux.org (ie Joomla!) and
>      copy the content from backup and try to do a better job maintaining
>      it in the future than the last years.  This make it fairly easy to
>      get a multi-lingual site up and running.
>
>  (2) Set up a new version of www.skolelinux.org using some one and
>      exciting technology, and see if things go better this time.
>      Assuming a good choice of CMS, this should make it fairly easy to
>      get a multi-lingual site up and running.
>
>  (3) Stop maintaining our own web site and point www.skolelinux.org to
>      the Debian Edu wiki, where we are almost able to keep updating the
>      content.  <URL: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/ > do not handle
>      several languages very well.
>
>  (4) Stop maintaining our own web server, but set up a new site on
>      <URL: http://debian-edu.alioth.debian.org/ > and fill it with nice
>      pages populated from git or subversion.
>
> I really believe we should leave web server maintenance to someone with
> time to do so on a regular and continous basis, and avoid maintaining
> more than the minimum kind of web site unless someone is willing to
> commit to running such site for many years.  But we also should have a
> www.skolelinux.org that present information to non-english people in
> their native language, and none of the "easy" options provide this as
> far as I know.  Would be best if we could handle translations using PO
> files like we do with programs and documentation.
>
> --
> Happy hacking
> Petter Reinholdtsen
>
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