Excellent synopsis. Of course, I fully agree with your comments. So maybe it's time to start asking a "little kids" or something similar (english spoken people could choose the right word for it) category for Education in freedesktop. Regards. José L. El mar, 29-05-2007 a las 08:34 +0000, Ejercicios Resueltos (Grupo CPD) escribió: > Hi all, > > GNOME guys seem to use metapackets for defining different profiles (I'm not a > GNOME expert). In KDE we can use kiosk mode to define different profiles. It > is a different approach. If I define a metapacket for each profile, this > category problem I agree is not so critical. With a KDE approach it is. We > need to define a category that allow us to differentiate between an app for a > 12-14 year old kid and another one for a 6-8 year old one. I agree with Dario > that the border line is gray but the areas: > > 1.- until 8 years old > 2.- From 12 years old > > are clear. > > Since we undestand that our point of view requires more discussion, we prefer > to begin promoting this category for elementary grade (little kids) and open > a disccussion about the rest. It is obvious that using one desktop or the > other gives a different point of view. Also if we are from the same country, > and we have different vision of the problem, it is an example that this is a > problem with a tricky solution. Specs cannot fit everybody's needs but I > think they can be better. > > At this point we should concentrate in what we agree on. For the first time > people that are developing desktop for kids are discussing specific stuff. > Since we know others will come across problems we have faced, lets solve the > biggest ones by beggining a collaboration. > > So the question is, do we agree that we need a category for little kids in the > Education category? JL Redrejo and I agree. What do you guys think? > > Should we open the discussion to other categories? Since we have a different > approach, I believe it is better to open the discussion after we listen to > what Freedesktop have to say. If they don't agree with us even in the > category we want to introduce, the following discussion is useless. > > Since Linex guys have experience in desktop for kids and we are beginning to > have it, and since it is a new area in development and not satisfied before, > we are really interested in keep talking about things related with desktop > for little kids. > > Bye > > El Lunes, 28 de Mayo de 2007 20:48, Dario Rapisardi escribió: > > On Monday 28 May 2007 18:27:46 José L. Redrejo Rodríguez wrote: > > > I'm not very sure about that. In fact, Kverbos and Klettres are for > > > Education and Languages. Being used in a secondary or a primary school > > > will depend on the metapackages you use to install it. So, I prefer to > > > have a secondary-education metapackage and install Kverbos , but if a > > > teacher desires to install klettres too (maybe for pupils with special > > > needs), it will appear in the same menu branch. I don't see the need to > > > split into so many sublevels, except for very young kids (under 5 years > > > old), where you find applications as pysycache to learn how to use the > > > mouse or learning reading and writing that are not very good under a > > > specific subject. > > > > I agree. Besides, I would add that school programs differs from one country > > to another, so there will be gray areas where what might be 'elementary' > > for one country, would be 'secondary' for other. To make it even worse, > > even in some countries the lenght of 'elementary' and 'secondary' cycles > > differs from province to province. >
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