Re: [Debian-NYC] [Fwd: DebConf10 pre-proposal: New York City]
On Aug 11, 2008, at 10:54 PM, Kevin Mark wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 08:34:32PM -0400, Micah Anderson wrote:
>> * Ron Guerin <email@example.com> [2008-08-11 17:17-0400]:
>>> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>>> On Aug 11, 2008, at 7:01 PM, Micah Anderson wrote:
>>>>> * Hans-Christoph Steiner <firstname.lastname@example.org> [2008-08-11 15:31-0400]:
>>>>>> The last Podcamp NYC was at Poly, about 250 signed up, with a
>>>>>> peak of
>>>>>> 160ish at once. The total Podcamp paid Poly was about $3k.
>>>>>> that to the previous year in a big hotel's conference center:
>>>>>> Barcamp NYC was just there, it had 24/7 access to one 10m x
>>>>>> 20m room
>>>>>> with 9 projectors, and 9am-11pm access to the rest of the
>>>>>> spaces. I
>>>>>> think the budget for Poly was $2k. Poly just merged with NYU,
>>>>>> NYU is a money-making machine, so that might change.
>>>>>> Hopefully not.
>>>>> Can you give an idea of how long these events lasted for?
>>>>> Debconf is
>>>>> typically just shy of 2 weeks, with a smaller debcamp before-hand,
>>>>> and a
>>>>> larger 1 week event as the main attraction.
>>>> The camps are 1-3 days, so short. The Poly campus is pretty
>>>> dead in
>>>> summer, so two weeks should be possible. But it would also be
>>>> good to
>>>> mix it up a bit, NYC is a big place. So perhaps the camp could
>>>> be at
>>>> one location, and the conf at another.
>>>> Also, there is a hacklab 5 minutes away from Poly:
>>> Google has made their facilities in Chelsea available for community
>>> events in the past, without charge. This of course is nowhere near
>>> Poly, but would be easy on the budget.
>> Community events meaning one-time evening events, I gather?
>> Debconf is a week plus long hack-fest, with people awake at all
>> hours of
>> the night doing things in whatever hacklab there is. I cannot
>> imagine us
>> doing anything but wearing out our welcome at any regular place of
>> business right quick. Mixing it up can be good, but it can be bad
>> for a
>> number of reasons. Logistically, having multiple setups is not
>> good, as
>> it typically takes some time to get things prepared beforehand, but
>> having disparate locations that are unconnected, or require
>> travel between venues has been a significant disadvantage of debconfs
>> There needs to be a central location that doesn't change that
>> people can
>> be at all hours of the night for over a week straight without pissing
>> people off.
> I attended 'The Last Hope' in NYC and it had 24/7 action on 2
> floors of
> the hotel. The lower area had a group area for sleeping, net
> user group booths, book sellers, and etc. The top floor had 4 rooms
> various lectures. Not sure about the arraingment for the floors
> but its
> in a hotel, so some attendees stayed there. There is food venues in
> hotel as well as many in the area. It was near a major subway stop, so
> travel to/fro to there locations seems ok.
> Contact the 2600 folks for more details.
A friend of mine organized Podcamp at that hotel, the Hotel
Pennsylvania. It was something like $20k for two days, and
definitely not 24/7 access. I think two weeks there would eat up the
entire DebConf budget.
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