Quoting Vipin Nair (2014-09-03 21:26:06) >> @Vipin, if you have any expertise or want to use this opportunity to >> explore any aspect of Debian, be it Debian-Installer (D-I), Debian >> infrastructure, Debian security or any of the million odd things that >> make up Debian and fascinates you, you are welcome to propose that >> and we can take that. Nobody is stopping you from doing that. > > I am no expert, just a loyal user for few years now, personally and > professionally. > There are a lot of things that fascinates me but my reasons for using > Debian and sticking to it are philosophical. I would not be talking on > that. As far as technical aspects are considered, I haven't yet > thought of anything. If I come up with something, I sure would put up > a proposal. > > >> It's only because we have not much Debian expertise who are taking >> part and going to share topics on Debian packaging and perhaps >> keysigning (if we do that) that we decided to open it for non-Debian >> talks as well. > > Is it because we trying to fill in empty slots? I do not see why > having fewer talks is an issue, if we have not enough people who can > talk on the subject. > Yes we do not have a lots of people with expertise or the willingness > to do this and I sincerely appreciate what you guys are doing. Having > said that, I do not understand what we are trying to achieve by > calling this event 'Mini DebConf' and it not being Debian centric. > Giving it a generic name which also includes a Debian track is > perfectly fine, but when you call it 'Mini DebConf', you are setting > the expectations wrong. > I would any day pick a small room with enthusiasts and interested > folks hacking on Debian in one corner over a big event with hundreds > of people with minimal Debian. > Also, I do not agree with the "Its all free software and Debian > supports Free software, so free software talks are fine" argument. > Tomorrow if I create my own OS with the Linux kernel and call it > Debian, is it acceptable? > Its not because: > 1) Its not the right thing to do because its not 'Debian'. > 2) Its a trademark[1] and I am not legally allowed to do it. > > There may not be registered trademarks for the names 'Debconf' and > 'Mini DebConf' so legally we are fine with it but is it the right > thing to do because there is nothing legally preventing us from doing > so? > In case you are still not convinced, have at look at other Mini > DebConf's organized around the world, have a look into the kind of > talks they have had, compare it to this list and see if you can see > any resemblance. > [1] : [1]https://www.debian.org/trademark Thanks, Vipin. I wholeheartedly agree with all of it. Point is not to force any particular style of conference, but to avoid false expectations. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private
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