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Quoting Vipin Nair (2014-09-03 21:26:06)
>> @Vipin, if you have any expertise or want to use this opportunity to 
>> explore any aspect of Debian, be it Debian-Installer (D-I), Debian 
>> infrastructure, Debian security or any of the million odd things that 
>> make up Debian and fascinates you, you are welcome to propose that 
>> and we can take that. Nobody is stopping you from doing that.
>
> I am no expert, just a loyal user for few years now, personally and 
> professionally.
> There are a lot of things that fascinates me but my reasons for using 
> Debian and sticking to it are philosophical. I would not be talking on 
> that. As far as technical aspects are considered, I haven't yet 
> thought of anything. If I come up with something, I sure would put up 
> a proposal.
>    
>
>> It's only because we have not much Debian expertise who are taking 
>> part and going to share topics on Debian packaging and perhaps 
>> keysigning (if we do that) that we decided to open it for non-Debian 
>> talks as well.
>
> Is it because we trying to fill in empty slots? I do not see why 
> having fewer talks is an issue, if we have not enough people who can 
> talk on the subject.
> Yes we do not have a lots of people with expertise or the willingness 
> to do  this and I sincerely appreciate what you guys are doing. Having 
> said that,  I do not understand what we are trying to achieve by 
> calling this event  'Mini DebConf' and it not being Debian centric. 
> Giving it a generic name which also includes a Debian track is 
> perfectly fine, but when you call it 'Mini DebConf', you are setting 
> the expectations wrong.
> I would any day pick a small room with enthusiasts and interested 
> folks hacking on Debian in one corner over a big event with hundreds 
> of people with minimal Debian.
> Also, I do not agree with the "Its all free software and Debian 
> supports Free software, so free software talks are fine" argument. 
> Tomorrow if I create my own OS with the Linux kernel and call it 
> Debian, is it acceptable?
> Its not because:
> 1) Its not the right thing to do because its not 'Debian'.
> 2) Its a trademark[1] and I am not legally allowed to do it.
>
> There may not be registered trademarks for the names 'Debconf' and 
> 'Mini DebConf' so legally we are fine with it but is it the right 
> thing to do because there is nothing legally preventing us from doing 
> so?
> In case you are still not convinced, have at look at other Mini 
> DebConf's organized around the world, have a look into the kind of 
> talks they have had, compare it to this list and see if you can see 
> any resemblance.
> [1] : [1]https://www.debian.org/trademark

Thanks, Vipin.  I wholeheartedly agree with all of it.

Point is not to force any particular style of conference, but to avoid 
false expectations.


 - Jonas

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