Quoting Guillem Jover (guillem@debian.org): > On the other hand I've also become disappointed after possibly realizing > that Debian's culture seems to have been shifting into something different > than what it was when I joined, where technical excellence seems to be > less important than rushing things out, patience is not considered an > important virtue anymore, but being pushy and demanding are, etc. > Which means I've been and will be reconsidering what my involvment in > the project should be. I'm not sure that this list is the right place for that discussion, but I see too much generalization in this statement. From what I've witnessed, the apparent "rush" has been quite soft and most people involved in this multi-arch stuff much more deeply than I am have refrained from pushing things too hard for a very long time before becoming more insisting (and I think it wouldn't be fair to translate "people" to "Raphaël", here). A *lot* of care has been taken to respect your very obvious commitment to technical excellence and will to "do the right thing" and I don't think that the TC people fit the definition you give above. I think that everybody agrees that multi-arch changes are, in some way, risky changes and this, particularly in the core package that dpkg is. But I also think that, after a few weeks, we see that we needed that release to unveil all consequences that, indeed, no human could anticipate. Nobody wants to repeat the 3-year release cycle of sarge, I'm afraid. I'm sure this won't convince you more than you are now, but I also think it's really unfair to conclude that the Debian culture has changed because of that. And, frankly, from what I have witnessed over the years, we already had many disruptive innovations happening in our core packages in that past and probably not all of them were as prepared as the multi-arch thing has been.... Again, I think that some words had to be said about all this and, as I can't speak about technical issues that are flying miles over my head....I then focus on the social issues. Nobody can't really prevent me from doing so..:-) So, well, in short, keep up with the good work and please don't give up...neither now or in a near future.
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