Re: chromium: Update to version 94.0.4606.61 (security-fixes)
❦ 14 February 2022 10:56 +01, Jonas Smedegaard:
>> I've finally give up and am just using ALL the bundled node packages:
>> https://salsa.debian.org/chromium-team/chromium/-/commit/a418d219f0217d6398a01c30035d35c42f7a76f1
>>
>
>> It's not ideal, but at least with this we'll match all of the node
>> stuff with what upstream is testing, with the single exception of
>> nodejs itself (which we're still using from debian). The only other
>> alternative I can think of is to get all the node packages into
>> debian, and they'd also need to be backported to bullseye. I haven't
>> looked into this yet, but it might be necessary if upstream breaks
>> compatibility with nodejs 12. So, uh, if anyone is bored and looking
>> for some node packages to maintain.... :)
>
> I fully recognize the pain of maintaining a big package and then on top
> of that paying attention to packaging a pile of Node.js modules.
>
> It is also, however, a pain to maintain a pile of Node.js modules and
> then on top of that paying attention to big packages struggling with
> bundled Node.js modules.
>
> Suggestion: Please consider filing RFP bugreports for each Node.js
> module that you give up on unbundling. That is far more helpful towards
> delegating the work than mentioning deep inside a mailinglist thread
> without "help needed packaging Node.js modules" as subject.
>
> A next step (independent, not necessarily by you) could then be to
> user-tag RFP bugs tied to unbundling, to help prioritize those among the
> many WNPP bugreports.
Unbundling also means that each update may require waiting for many
dependencies, leaving users vulnerable in the meantime. Firefox has a
very good track record with updating both in unstable and in stable
thanks to glandium uploading new version the day after the release. I
don't know what the bundling state is, but even with such a good track
record, it sometimes lag a bit behind upstream due to dependencies.
Currently, Firefox 97 is waiting for a rust update and nothing seems to
go forward. Once someone will move forward, it seems we will have to
also wait a bit on the NEW queue due to the rust update (most of the
time, I think rust gets quickly approved in a day or two). I have myself
switched to the binaries provided by Mozilla. I'll switch back once
unstable is up-to-date again because I am confident this won't happen
often, but I suppose at some point, I will switch to the Flatpak, like I
did for Chromium.
My point is that packaging dependencies independently will just lead us
to difficult to package browsers with maintainers giving up.
--
Test programs at their boundary values.
- The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan & Plauger)
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