Re: Reconsider sending ITP bugs to debian-devel: a new list?
On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 6:01 PM Jeremy Stanley <fungi@yuggoth.org> wrote:
>
> On 2021-06-14 16:22:31 +0200 (+0200), Stephan Lachnit wrote:
> [...]
> > How about sending a digest of a potential debian-itp to d-d on a
> > weekly basis? I think we wouldn't lose any reviews with this, I
> > would even go as far and claim that there will be more reviews,
> > since it's less of an "annoyance" and more of a weekly "let's see
> > what people are up to".
>
> I don't think that's a valid assumption. The current copies, since
> they're one to an ITP, include the name of the software being
> packaged in the subject line. If there's one which mentions software
> I'm familiar with, I'm far more likely to read the ITP message and
> possibly subscribe to it in the BTS to get further updates. The vast
> majority of ITP messages I simply delete unread, having seen only
> their subject lines.
>
> If these were aggregated into a digest, fitting the names of all the
> relevant software into the subject would be unlikely a lot of the
> time. As such, list subscribers are far less likely to spot one for
> software they might care about.
I guess the discussion is over by now, but I still don't think this a
valid argument.
If you are the type of person that reads the subjects of ITP mails,
you can still subscribe to the potential debian-itp list and get the
same experience. In fact, in the beginning it would probably make
sense to just subscribe to all current subscribers of debian-devel,
and add it to the list of lists that DDs should subscribe to.
The new list would have two major advantages:
1) easier filtering
2) potential more people joining d-d to discuss actual development,
but aren't interested in ITPs.
The digest would be basically the same as the wnpp digest that already
exists. A short list of all subjects with links to BTS.
On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 6:10 PM Geert Stappers <stappers@debian.org> wrote:
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> On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 04:22:31PM +0200, Stephan Lachnit wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 4:26 PM Steve McIntyre wrote:
> > >
> > > To be honest, I think if we did that we'd lose just about all the
> > > reviews that currently happen. The whole point of sending ITPs to
> > > d-devel is that they will be seen by a wider audience, but I can't see
> > > many signing up for YA mailing list for them.
> >
> > How about sending a digest of a potential debian-itp to d-d on a weekly basis?
>
> If, and only if, that gets implemented:
>
> * The burden of matching Subject: with subject of email
> * The burden of adding the correct BTS-number as email To address
I don't think it needs a lot of change. You basically only need to
change "X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org" to "X-Debbugs-Cc:
debian-itp@lists.debian.org" in the reportbug package and add a new
list.
- Stephan
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