Re: Please stop hating on sysvinit (was Re: do packages depend on lexical order or {daily,weekly,monthly} cron jobs?)

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Subject: Re: Please stop hating on sysvinit (was Re: do packages depend on lexical order or {daily,weekly,monthly} cron jobs?)
From: Ansgar <ansgar@debian.org>
Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2019 19:06:12 +0900
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Alf Gaida writes:
> We need sysvinit for some non-linux things

No: Hurd existed for a long time without using sysvinit/sysv-rc.  I
think sysvinit was only ported to Hurd in 2013 or 2014 (I didn't search
much, but found a Summer of Code application from 2013 for this).

Having sysvinit might make things a bit easier for Hurd/kFreeBSD, but
it's not an absolute requirement for such a port to exist.

Ansgar

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