[loads of bikeshedding and grandstanding] So this thread is a shitshow. Has anyone thought about taking the website (or really, anything we put out), going and talking with **our users** and see what they have to say? What they think of the site? Record them finding and creating an install medium? I, frankly, don't even pretend to care what our developer community thinks of the site -- the site isn't just for you. Until someone comes back with data on what things are easy, what things are hard, and large enough sample sizes covering an *accurate* slice of our userbase, I don't care about what anyone on this thread says. Paul
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