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Re: support for merged /usr in Debian

On Sat, 9 Jan 2016 11:12:37 +0000, Jonathan McDowell
<noodles@earth.li> wrote:
>On Fri, Jan 08, 2016 at 07:09:59PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
>> On Fri, 8 Jan 2016 17:54:49 +0000, Jonathan McDowell
>> <noodles@earth.li> wrote:
>> >You're not communicating clearly and this is indeed causing problems
>> >in this thread. You said "all my clients run unstable", not "all my
>> >client machines run unstable". You've also later said "I've not
>> >installed any new Debian systems at any client site". It is not
>> >unreasonable that the casual reader will assume you are using the
>> >term to mean a 3rd party who you are managing system for.
>> You're right to blame for only speaking english for 30 years of my
>> life and living in a country where TV programs are dubbed. I am also
>> deeply worried about the Operating System I still care about after 15
>> years and which works so hard to feel not like a home any more.
>I'm not sure how you've taken any of this meaning from my message. You
>have inconsistently used certain terms such that it's not surprising
>they have been misunderstood by others in this thread. I am not in any
>way complaining about your grasp of the English language.

And it happened again in the very next message. My bad. A client is a
computer, a customer is a company or an individual. In German, there
is a clear distinction between that since one also says "client" for
the computer and "Kunde" for the customer.

>> >As far as I can tell what he wants to happen is a) files in / and
>> >/usr locations not to conflict and b) policy to state that this
>> >should be the case.
>> If that is really the gist of those editorial changes[1], then this is
>> actually a misunderstanding. Maybe UsrMerge is even a misnomer.
>These are not editorial changes. There's a clear desire for a change in
>the way things are handled, and I don't believe there is any need to
>ascribe an ulterior motive to it. Marco wants to be able to merge / and
>/usr on his systems. Various other people do as well. If we, as a
>project, say that we should not have duplicate file names between these
>portions of the file system then they can have their desire and the rest
>of us can continue to keep them separate.

And I fear that the current motive will only be step one, with maybe
step three being the really harmful step. I'd like to stop an avalange
before it gets moving.

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