Re: Technical committee acting in gross violation of the Debian constitution

[Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl>]

On Fri, Dec 05, 2014 at 03:58:53AM +0100, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult wrote:
> On 25.11.2014 18:30, Stephen Gran wrote:
> 
> > Excellent.  I'm sure that if they can create a deb, they can install
> > sysvinit, or runit, or some BSD, or whatever else they want.  A default
> > is only a default, after all.
> 
> Just curious about the term "default":
> 
> Can I still install a system w/o systemd ever going into my system -
> instead of replacing it later (eg. some option in the installer) ?

With current d-i and/or debootstrap no, although you can give it an obscure
incantation that will replace systemd-sysv with sysvinit-core just
afterwards (leaving junk like systemd and its dependencies).

The latter can be fixed with a simple fix to --exclude (with a patch by
Kenshi Muto in https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=668001#20 )
but KiBi repeatedly keeps refusing that fix.

The former is less important as use cases that run d-i tend to be able to
boot with systemd (no custom kernel, no containers, etc) and thus getting
rid of it can be done as your regular after-install configuration.

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