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Re: veto?



Daniel Pocock <daniel@pocock.pro> writes:

> On 12/11/14 17:47, Thomas Goirand wrote:
>> On 11/12/2014 07:08 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>>> On 12/11/14 11:43, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 11:04:05AM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>>>>> It is very sad to see that contributors sometimes feel that the only
>>>>> option for them is to resign.
>>>>>
>>>>> Would it be worthwhile giving people another option, for example,
>>>>> allowing a percentage of DDs to formally veto decisions?  Would this be
>>>>> better than people leaving outright?
>>>> Can you elaborate which decisions and how many DDs could veto them?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I didn't want to be too specific, to give other people a chance to make
>>> suggestions
>>>
>>> However, one possibility is that anybody maintaining an essential
>>> package and anybody who is a DPL delegate would be able to veto.  The
>>> implication is that somebody can still win a GR against the veto, but
>>> they do so knowing that they will have to find somebody else to maintain
>>> some essential packages.
>> 
>> I don't agree with filtering the people on what kind of package they
>> maintain, or if they have a role delegated by the DPL. This makes
>> absolutely no sense to me: in what way are they more competent, and why
>> should they have more power than others?
>
> It is not a suggestion that such people are more or less competent than
> anybody else.
>
> Rather, it is a recognition of the fact that if these people are going
> to leave anyway (or are not going to lift a finger to support a
> particular decision, as everybody is a volunteer after all) then people
> proposing the decision need to actively demonstrate that they can take
> on the extra workload that will result from getting a decision in their
> favor.

Oh, I see.

You're expecting people proposing GRs to be receptive to rational argument.

I fear you've not been paying close attention recently.  Well done.
I congratulate you on your wisdom.

Cheers, Phil.
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