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Re: Cinnamon environment now available in testing



On Sunday, 7 de September de 2014 23:45:12 David Weinehall escribió:
> On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 12:37:12PM -0700, Cameron Norman wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 1:57 AM, Josselin Mouette <joss@debian.org> wrote:
> > > Noel Torres wrote:
> > >> So we are clearly failing to follow the least surprise (for the user)
> > >> path.
> > >> 
> > >> Should not logind depend on systemd-shim | systemd-sysv instead?
> > > 
> > > No. Systemd is the default init system. The default dependencies should
> > > reflect that.
> > 
> > It has already been explained that it being the default makes the
> > order switching irrelevant for what you recommend. If people are using
> > the default init, the dependency will already be satisfied and life
> > will not be disrupted. The same thing should happen if people are
> > using a different init: that decision should be maintained unless they
> > manually uninstall the package that satisfies the init package's
> > dependency.
> 
> Most Debian systems aren't using sysvinit by active choice, but because
> it was the default when they installed their machines, so this argument
> doesn't really make sense.

Does that mean that we can happily break their hand made configurations for 
their was-default current init system?

If our priorities are free software and _our users_ of course not.

Regards

Noel
er Envite

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