Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian
- To: Kieran Kunhya <kierank@obe.tv>
- Cc: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>, Attila Kinali <attila@kinali.ch>, siretart@gmail.com, Debian Developers <debian-devel@lists.debian.org>, Joe Neal <vlvtelvis@speakeasy.net>
- Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian
- From: Thomas Weber <tweber@debian.org>
- Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 08:57:50 +0200
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On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 12:53:41AM +0100, Kieran Kunhya wrote:
> > Also ive offered my resignation in the past.
> > I do still offer to resign from the FFmpeg leader position, if it
> > resolves this split between FFmpeg and Libav and make everyone work
> > together again. I never understood why people who once where friends
> > became mutually so hostile
>
> The big elephant in the room in any discussion about even moving an
> iota in the direction of something resembling a resolution is that you
> as FFmpeg leader are a hidden leader. Every year at VDD when there is
> any informal discussion of any reconciliation as Attila alludes to the
> line "we can't get anywhere since Michael isn't here" is uttered and
> then everyone moves on.
Guys,
this is getting nowhere. You need to solve this in a non-public
discussion.
Given the amount of noise this has generated on debian-devel, I am sure
some of the Debian oldtimers[1] will be happy[2] to act as mediators for
such a discussion if it is organized in a somewhat convenient
location/conference/etc and if both sides consider such a mediation
helpful.
[1] With or without previous contacts with ffmpeg/libav.
[2] Think of it like "spending some hours to fix the issue" vs "spending
some hours to read more mails on debian-devel".
Thomas
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