On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 09:45:37PM +0200, Attila Kinali wrote: > On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 10:44:35 -0500 > Joe Neal <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote: > > > > When this happened I scoured the net, including mailing lists from both > > projects to try and figure out what had happened. The overwhelming > > evidence based on mailing list posts, blog posts, forum discussions and > > pretty much everywhere else I could look all led me to the overwhelming > > conclusion of what I stated before. This is the only time I've ever > > seen anything to the contrary stated and I looked good and hard for > > another side of the story, as have many other people. > > Part of the reason for this is that the people around libav decided > that they didn't want to participate in the mudslinging. Only the most > blatant lies were refuted and all the name calling was mostly ignored. > In hindsight that was a mistake. > > > I still don't know who is in the right, but at least you've put an end > > to the weirdness where only one side of the story existed on the net > > and there was just conspicuous silence on the other. > > I'd like to give here a short account on what happend before the split, > even though this not the right place. I think i should write up something > longer after my vacations and put it somewhere online. > > Before 2011 there were quite a few issues within FFmpeg. Most of those > revolved around Michael Niedermayer playing by his own set of rules > and ignoring the advise of everyone else. His behaviour has resulted > in quite a bit of ... anger.. to put it mildly. A few people left because > of him. Heck, even i wanted to leave everything that was related to > FFmpeg in any way, even though all i did was keeping the server running > and was not involved in the development or anything else at all. Its a long time ago, but IIRC when i asked about what rules it was that where broken back then it was a mix of silence and someone who admited he mixed the rules of FFmpeg up with another project. Also ive offered my resignation in the past. I do still offer to resign from the FFmpeg leader position, if it resolves this split between FFmpeg and Libav and make everyone work together again. I never understood why people who once where friends became mutually so hostile The part i insist on though is that everyone must be able to work on their code without people uninvolved in that specific parts maintaince or authorship being able to block their work. [...] -- Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB Rewriting code that is poorly written but fully understood is good. Rewriting code that one doesnt understand is a sign that one is less smart then the original author, trying to rewrite it will not make it better.
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