Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop
On 08/11/2014 07:49 AM, Cameron Norman wrote:
> El dom, 10 de ago 2014 a las 11:39 , Kees de Jong <keesdejong@gmail.com>
> escribió:
>> Why are we discussing CD/DVD sizes? Why not just use an USB
>> netinstall? It's then possible to download and install the stuff you
>> need, if you don't want to use a lot of bandwidth then choose no
>> desktop environment or XFCE/LXDE. But if you can spare some more time
>> then you can install GNOME/KDE. Seems like a good deal. And USB sticks
>> are cheaper (also easier to reuse) so I don't get the 'hurting
>> developing countries' argument.
>
> CDs are cheap and easy to distribute and customize (with the Debian logo
> and artwork). Yes, we all have a number of 1+ GB USB drives that could
> easily fit GNOME, but are we willing to give those away or sell them
> cheaply? Being able to distribute a Debian CD that does not need an
> internet connection to try out or install is really beneficial for
> gaining users.
>
> elementary OS is hitting this issue with how expensive it is to make
> customized USB drives (with their logo and stuff). I think the best
> chance they have of being able to sell USB drives in their online store
> is just the elementary coloring (a distinctive light blue).
>
> netinstall is difficult for unreliable or limited bandwidth network
> connections (luckily it is perfect for me, someone who uses GNOME and
> has a good internet connection :)
I can't agree with the price thing, when you can find USB keys for less
than 1USD online on taobao.com (or aliexpress.com if you can't read
Chinese). And I didn't search more than 20 seconds to find that... there
must be even cheaper, and it shouldn't be hard to find a company that
can customize the USB keys for you, if you know where to look for them
(eg: Shenzhen area), and if you want to mass-produce them. For smaller
quantities, then probably you can customize them yourself with cheap
stickers.
There's many other valid points for which having CD ISO images is
important, but price isn't one. And that's not the first time I explain
it. So please don't write about how expensive USB keys are again, this
kinds of repetitions aren't helping to move forward.
Thomas Goirand (zigo)
P.S: Is it really needed to cross-post in 7 lists?!? I've dropped all
lists but debian-devel@.
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